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1. 12:24 AM - Re: 601XL kit on order (Iberplanes IGL)
2. 02:31 AM - Primer paint (K Dilks)
3. 03:46 AM - Re: Primer paint (Paul Mulwitz)
4. 03:57 AM - AW: Primer paint (Dilks, Kevin)
5. 08:44 AM - Re: 601XL kit on order (Jim Belcher)
6. 11:15 AM - Re: 601XL kit on order (PatrickW)
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Subject: | Re: 601XL kit on order |
I=B4ve done the same here. Xl + new canopy.
bye
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> Alberto Martin
> www.iberplanes.es
> Igualada - Barcelona - Spain
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> ----------------------------------------------
> Zodiac 601 XL Builder
> Serial: 6-7011
>
> Tail Kit: Finished
> Wings: Not Started
> Fuselage: Ordered
> Engine: Jabiru 3300
>
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Hi guys hope some one can help.
I was advised to use a BASF product which is a self eching primer but I cannot
easily obtain this in my area .
I have found a Spies Hecker paint that says its a wash primer, chromate free but
does not use and activator like the BASF product.
Question does anyone have experience of Spies Hecker 4085 primer or know if this
is find for our airframe materials??
Supposed to be shipping this week my kit.
Thanks for any help
Kev
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Austria ...guess where I work!
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Subject: | Re: Primer paint |
Hi Kev,
You need a self-etch primer for painting aluminum. If you use an
ordinary primer on the aluminum you need chemical preparations like
Alumiprep and Allodine to get rid of the invisible oxide that is
usually found on the aluminum.
It is a good idea to test your actual paints on some scrap aluminum
before painting large parts of your plane. I found the self etch
primer would stick nicely to the aluminum but would be lifted by most
top coat paints including rattle can enamel. This problem was solved
by using an ordinary primer on top of the self etching primer and
under the top coat.
Good luck,
Paul
XL getting close
At 02:30 AM 9/25/2008, you wrote:
>Hi guys hope some one can help.
> I was advised to use a BASF product which is a self eching primer
> but I cannot easily obtain this in my area .
> I have found a Spies Hecker paint that says its a wash primer,
> chromate free but does not use and activator like the BASF product.
> Question does anyone have experience of Spies Hecker 4085 primer
> or know if this is find for our airframe materials??
>
> Supposed to be shipping this week my kit.
> Thanks for any help
>Kev
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Hi Paul
Thanks for that, and for everyone's info the Spies Hecker 4085 is part of a paint
system that allows there top coats to cover direct so saving some weight.
Looks like I will by the 4085 stuff then.
Kev
Wait for the box to arrive.................................... grrrr!
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. September 2008 12:46
An: zenith601-list@matronics.com
Betreff: Re: Zenith601-List: Primer paint
Hi Kev,
You need a self-etch primer for painting aluminum. If you use an
ordinary primer on the aluminum you need chemical preparations like
Alumiprep and Allodine to get rid of the invisible oxide that is
usually found on the aluminum.
It is a good idea to test your actual paints on some scrap aluminum
before painting large parts of your plane. I found the self etch
primer would stick nicely to the aluminum but would be lifted by most
top coat paints including rattle can enamel. This problem was solved
by using an ordinary primer on top of the self etching primer and
under the top coat.
Good luck,
Paul
XL getting close
At 02:30 AM 9/25/2008, you wrote:
>Hi guys hope some one can help.
> I was advised to use a BASF product which is a self eching primer
> but I cannot easily obtain this in my area .
> I have found a Spies Hecker paint that says its a wash primer,
> chromate free but does not use and activator like the BASF product.
> Question does anyone have experience of Spies Hecker 4085 primer
> or know if this is find for our airframe materials??
>
> Supposed to be shipping this week my kit.
> Thanks for any help
>Kev
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Subject: | Re: 601XL kit on order |
On Wednesday 24 September 2008 22:09, Larry Hursh wrote:
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> I waited until the last minute to order my canopy. I had taken a ride in
> Roger's 601 demo the last time I was in Mexico. The very first thing I
> noticed when Roger closed the canopy, my headset hit the canopy. This was
> extremely annoying the entire ride. After Oshkosh I'd seen the new CH650
> and there was Todd's Canopy. I finally placed my order so hopefully, my
> fuselage kit will be ready for pickup, along with the new style canopy. If
> you've never taken a ride in a 601, I would seriously consider the new
> style canopy, especially if you have a long torso. I'm positive I've made
> the right choice and held off like I did.
That makes sense. If one may inquire, how tall are you?
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Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue.
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Jim B. Belcher
BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science
A&P/IA
Instrument Rated Pilot
General Radio Telephone Certificate
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Subject: | Re: 601XL kit on order |
How much was the new canopy?
What comes with it? Is there a new bulkhead and skin?
When I talked to Nick at OSH he said there'd be a 650 canopy kit for XL builders
somewhere around $2,000 but I hadn't heard anything since.
I've been holding off on the canopy on my XL for the same reasons as you guys.
Thanks,
- Pat
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Patrick
601XL/Corvair
N63PZ (reserved)
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