---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/21/08: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:12 AM - Test (Bob) 2. 07:43 AM - Re: Canopy Safety (Ken) 3. 09:44 AM - Re: Canopy Safety (Gig Giacona) 4. 10:41 AM - Re: Canopy Safety (Ken) 5. 11:53 AM - Re: Canopy Safety (DaveG601XL) 6. 12:09 PM - Re: props (Jim Belcher) 7. 01:45 PM - UL 260 Engine (Iberplanes IGL) 8. 02:03 PM - Re: props (Gig Giacona) 9. 02:12 PM - Re: UL 260 Engine (Jay Maynard) 10. 02:16 PM - Re: Re: props (Jim Belcher) 11. 02:19 PM - Re: Re: props (Paul Mulwitz) 12. 10:45 PM - Re: UL 260 Engine (K Dilks) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:20 AM PST US From: "Bob" Subject: Zenith601-List: Test ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:43 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Canopy Safety From: "Ken" When I was building my canopy I noted that a binding cable could potentially keep the release lever, on each latching mechanism, from snapping back far enough to latch on both clicks. I cut a 1 inch hole in the inside skin, right beside each canopy latch, where I can visually inspect to see that the latch lever has snapped clear back as it should. It's not as pretty but it accomplishes two goals: you can visually tell if you are latched in good and if you should have a failure in either cable you could get out of the airplane by using your finger and manually flipping the latching lever forward. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9658#209658 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:32 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Canopy Safety From: "Gig Giacona" Ken wrote: > When I was building my canopy I noted that a binding cable could potentially keep the release lever, on each latching mechanism, from snapping back far enough to latch on both clicks. I cut a 1 inch hole in the inside skin, right beside each canopy latch, where I can visually inspect to see that the latch lever has snapped clear back as it should. It's not as pretty but it accomplishes two goals: you can visually tell if you are latched in good and if you should have a failure in either cable you could get out of the airplane by using your finger and manually flipping the latching lever forward. I don't have them handy but that sort of access is in either the plans or the build manual. I'll have them on the outside as well with a cap on the hole. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9679#209679 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:06 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Canopy Safety From: "Ken" Well darn. I thought it was my idea but in reality I could have seen it elsewhere and acted on it later. I have a bit of a problem trusting the "bicycle cables" that I installed in the canopy. It's ironic how they take constant lubricant and adjustment on a bicycle and now, I'm riveting metal around them on an airplane. I sure don't have a better solution though. I'm resigned to the fact that if it has tires or testicles, you are going to have problems with it 8>) DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9691#209691 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:53:10 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Canopy Safety From: "DaveG601XL" I can put a ditto on the canopy latch access holes. The closest I have come was to have the main latch pop up on one side and get caught by the 2nd, safety latch. It still scared the crap out of me. I too could not get the canopy to fully re-latch in flight. I am sure that laxness on my part during closure was to blame. Now the canopy latching procedure includes sticking my finger into this access hole and pulling back on the lever to ensure it is secure. I have had no issues since. Good luck, -------- David Gallagher 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 First flight 7/24/08 Phase I flight test complete 10/16/08 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9708#209708 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:22 PM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: props Thanks for all the input from everyone on props. It does not sound as though I will have a weight and balance issue. For my application, it appears the choice remains between ground adjustable and fixed pitch wood. I'll get some prices, and see if I can afford the adjustable. If I can't, I'll see if I can get one of the experimental shops to clone the Sensenich wood fixed pitch prop. Incidently, it may just be my background, but I've never considered not having at least a 40 hour test period. Thus, a certified engine/certified prop combination has never been a consideration to me. -- ============================================= Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue. ================================================ Jim B. Belcher BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science A&P/IA Instrument Rated Pilot General Radio Telephone Certificate ================================================ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:45:54 PM PST US From: "Iberplanes IGL" Subject: Zenith601-List: UL 260 Engine Hello friends, Anyone out there flying an XL behind an UL 260 engine? Any comment would be great. This is the engine: http://www.ulpower.com/ Alberto Martin www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain ---------------------------------------------- Zodiac 601 XL Builder Serial: 6-7011 Tail Kit: Finished Wings: Just Started Fuselage: Ordered Engine: Jabiru 3300 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:03:14 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: props From: "Gig Giacona" z601(at)anemicaardvark.co wrote: > > > I'll get some prices, and see if I can afford the adjustable. If I can't, I'll > see if I can get one of the experimental shops to clone the Sensenich wood > fixed pitch prop. > > Why not just have Sensenich make you one? My custom prop (which spins the wrong way) was a little under $800. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9725#209725 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:12:22 PM PST US From: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: UL 260 Engine On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:44:46PM +0200, Iberplanes IGL wrote: > Anyone out there flying an XL behind an UL 260 engine? Any comment would be > great. > This is the engine: http://www.ulpower.com/ Looks interesting, but the power is somewhat disappointing: 95 HP at 3300 RPM, about 77 HP at 2700 RPM. I'd guess it needs a bit more oomph for a Zodiac, though it would be great for a 701. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:16:03 PM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: props On Tuesday 21 October 2008 16:02, Gig Giacona wrote: > Why not just have Sensenich make you one? My custom prop (which spins the > wrong way) was a little under $800. That's cheaper than I would have expected. I'll consider them. ============================================= Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue. ================================================ Jim B. Belcher BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science A&P/IA Instrument Rated Pilot General Radio Telephone Certificate ================================================ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:19:07 PM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: props Hi Jim, Why not get Sensenich to make you the prop you need. The one I got for the Jabiru (64ZK49, I think) was around $600. It has a nice plastic leading edge and seems like a good deal to me. I have exchanged emails with the guy at Sensenich and believe he will probably be happy to supply your prop. If you have trouble finding the right contact (try Google) let me know and I will find my old email. Good luck, Paul At 12:09 PM 10/21/2008, you wrote: > >Thanks for all the input from everyone on props. It does not sound >as though I >will have a weight and balance issue. For my application, it appears the >choice remains between ground adjustable and fixed pitch wood. > >I'll get some prices, and see if I can afford the adjustable. If I >can't, I'll >see if I can get one of the experimental shops to clone the Sensenich wood >fixed pitch prop. > >Incidently, it may just be my background, but I've never considered >not having >at least a 40 hour test period. Thus, a certified engine/certified prop >combination has never been a consideration to me. >-- >============================================= >Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue. >================================================ > Jim B. Belcher > BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science > A&P/IA > Instrument Rated Pilot > General Radio Telephone Certificate >================================================ > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:45:16 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: UL 260 Engine From: "K Dilks" Make a nice tie down weight when parking. Based on the jabiru 2200 , was intended for a helicopter project .... nuff said. High rpm , not good for thrust output, bit heavy too for the 77 hp as this is at real world rpm of 2750. 3300 rpm if you have a VP prop and your area allows the noise. So other than all that , a great engine. LOL Kev -------- Austria ...guess where I work! 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