---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/24/08: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:02 AM - FW: CorvAircraft> Corvair info at Copperstate AZ (Craig Payne) 2. 08:26 AM - Re: 601xl aeilerons (Gig Giacona) 3. 09:01 AM - Re: 601xl aeilerons (Randy) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:56 AM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: Zenith601-List: FW: CorvAircraft> Corvair info at Copperstate AZ -----Original Message----- From: corvaircraft-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:corvaircraft-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of WilliamTCA@aol.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 5:58 AM Subject: CorvAircraft> Corvair info at Copperstate AZ Friends, The Copperstate fly in is this weekend in AZ. Contact! editor Pat Panzera organizes a lot of the engine forum information, and will be on hand to cover the event for his readership. The Contact! booth is a meeting point for Corvair builders. I spoke with Pat yesterday and he said that he was headed to the show with his running Corvair engine on his test stand. One of the forums Pat Organized was an Engine review and a discussion of detonation on Saturday at 3pm in the forum tents. To supplement the information I have asked Corvair/ 601 XL builder Andy Elliott from Mesa, AZ, to attend the forum and share his building insight. Andy is 99% done with his 3100cc 601 XL Tail Dragger. When I spoke to him last night he was down to putting the final paint on the wingtips. He is an instructor at Embry Riddle's Prescott campus and he holds a Ph.D. in Aerospace Engineering from a trade school in Massachusetts with the initials MIT He is a former US Air Force flight instructor and equally home in the cockpit and the classroom. He is a very friendly guy and easy to speak with. Andy's involvement with the Corvair movement goes all the way back to the 2002 San Antonio College that we held with host Oscar Zuniga. I look forward to the good chance we will have Andy's plane at CC#13. I would appreciate this note being forwarded to the 601 list and KR net. Thank you. William Wynne 5000-18 HWY 17 #247 Orange Park, FL 32003 USA _http://FlyCorvair.com/hangar.html_ (http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar.html) - October Update 2008 **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics check it out! http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001) _________________________________________________________ search the CorvAircraft archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/corvairsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from CorvAircraft, send a message to CorvAircraft-leave@mylist.net Other CorvAircraft list info is at http://www.krnet.org/corvaircraft_inst.html ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:10 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: 601xl aeilerons From: "Gig Giacona" No you are confused by the screwed up quotation of the post I was responding to. It is my position that the balancing is used to reduce flutter because Bingelis said so. psm(at)att.net wrote: > Hi Gig, > > I'm confused by your post. > > In the first part you say balancing control surfaces is done to > relieve control pressures. In the second part you quote Bingelis > saying you only need to do this to reduce tendency for flutter. > -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=210117#210117 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:40 AM PST US From: "Randy" Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: 601xl aeilerons I have to agree with Dave. I have hingeless ailerons (which I'm sure are stiffer than hinged ailerons) and have flown my XL on a number of cross country flights, the longest being Wisconsin to California, and the flight was not fatiguing at all. Just telling real life experiences. Randy 601XL - Jabiru 3300 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Austin" Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: 601xl aeilerons > > > Just a thought.. > You could not break the aeroplane with the way the ailerons are by design, > at any speed, but you could very easily break it with the sensitive > elevators at higher speeds. However, you don't need to have more > sensitive ailerons for control at any speed, but you certainly need > sensitive elevators at low speed. > I think that's why Chris designed it the way it is. > Solution is, install roll trim. I have and have flown many long flights > without any tiring effect. > Dave Austin 601HDS - 912 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith601-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith601-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith601-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith601-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.