---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/04/08: 30 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:36 AM - Re: Re: Zenair Europe's comments on the Dutch accident and groundin (Iberplanes IGL) 2. 03:47 AM - Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle (K Dilks) 3. 04:02 AM - Re: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle (Brian R. Wood) 4. 04:19 AM - Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle (K Dilks) 5. 04:24 AM - Re: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle (Brian R. Wood) 6. 04:48 AM - Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle (K Dilks) 7. 04:55 AM - Re: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle (Brian R. Wood) 8. 05:04 AM - Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle (K Dilks) 9. 06:02 AM - Re: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle (LarryMcFarland) 10. 06:34 AM - Re: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle (Jim Belcher) 11. 06:49 AM - Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle (K Dilks) 12. 07:12 AM - Interesting reading about cable tensions (Martin Pohl) 13. 08:46 AM - Re: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle (Bryan Martin) 14. 08:55 AM - Re: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle (Brian R. Wood) 15. 09:52 AM - Re: Interesting reading about cable tensions (Rick Lindstrom) 16. 10:08 AM - Re: Interesting reading about cable tensions (Craig Payne) 17. 12:58 PM - Re: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle (Gary Gower) 18. 01:04 PM - Re: Zenair Europe's comments on the Dutch accident and groundin (Gig Giacona) 19. 01:06 PM - Re: Interesting reading about cable tensions (Gig Giacona) 20. 01:20 PM - Re:Cable tension (Bob McArdle) 21. 01:27 PM - Re: Re: Zenith-List: XL grounded in Spain (Terry Phillips) 22. 01:41 PM - Re: Re:Cable tension (Jim Belcher) 23. 01:45 PM - Re: Cable tension (Gig Giacona) 24. 01:55 PM - Cable ends (Gig Giacona) 25. 01:55 PM - Re: Re:Cable tension (jaybannist@cs.com) 26. 02:36 PM - Re: Re:Cable tension (Jim Belcher) 27. 02:37 PM - Re: Re:Cable tension (Craig Payne) 28. 03:17 PM - 2 Years, Waiting on NTSB (PLAV8R) 29. 04:38 PM - Polish, Paint OR not (jaybannist@cs.com) 30. 04:50 PM - Re: Polish, Paint OR not (Bill Naumuk) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:31 AM PST US From: "Iberplanes IGL" Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Zenair Europe's comments on the Dutch accident and groundin Wow!! amazing and incredible. THX 2008/11/3 Gig Giacona > > >From here http://www.zenairulm.com/News/index_files/Page349.htm > > "On Saturday October 25, Zenair Sarl was informed by a Dutch Zodiac XL > owner that the Dutch CAA had issued an emergency Airworthiness Directive the > previous day, calling for the immediate grounding of all Zodiac XL in the > Netherlands, effective immediately. > > > This came as a complete surprise to Zenair Europe, Zenair Ltd and Zenith > Aircraft Co. as none of us had been previously contacted by the Dutch > authorities. We were further surprised that the basis for the NL-CAA acti on > was a preliminary accident report that offers no new findings regarding t he > Zodiac XL design. Rather it makes allusion to various other accidents and > suggests that the =9Ccalculated strength of the design is =9Cprobably too > optimistic . > > > Zenair is eager to discuss the basis for these statements with the Dutch > CAA and is keenly awaiting the return of CAA staff from their seasonal > holiday...." > > > Iberplanes wrote: > > guys, > > > > how do you know that the Dutch is on vacation? Quite extrange because t he > season is over and I=EF=BDm affected by this "bureacrat" > > > > THX > > > > > > > -------- > W.R. "Gig" Giacona > 601XL Under Construction > See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212132#212132 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- Alberto Martin www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain ---------------------------------------------- Zodiac 601 XL Builder Serial: 6-7011 Tail Kit: Finished Wings: Not Started Fuselage: Ordered Engine: Jabiru 3300 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:47:11 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle From: "K Dilks" The gloop is often formed over time when some one has use a little grease or spray ( WD40) to put the pipes on or off with. with the heat and glycol a small amount of the the rubber tubeing is dissolved. Never spray wd 40 type of lube in the hose as this softens the rubber. Hope this is of use Kev -------- Austria ...guess where I work! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212212#212212 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:02:12 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle From: "Brian R. Wood" What are the water pump impellers made of? Brian Em Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:46:48 -0200, K Dilks escreveu: > > The gloop is often formed over time when some one has use a little > grease or spray ( WD40) to put the pipes on or off with. with the heat > and glycol a small amount of the the rubber tubeing is dissolved. > > Never spray wd 40 type of lube in the hose as this softens the rubber. > Hope this is of use > > Kev > > -------- > Austria ...guess where I work! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212212#212212 > > -- Usando o revolucionrio cliente de e-mail do Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:19:04 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle From: "K Dilks" Impeller is Aluminium or Aluminum....... Oil seals are a ceramic rotary type. Or light shiny metal if your a hobbit . Kev -------- Austria ...guess where I work! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212216#212216 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:24:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle From: "Brian R. Wood" How often should the coolant be changed? Brian Em Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:18:51 -0200, K Dilks escreveu: > > Impeller is Aluminium or Aluminum....... > Oil seals are a ceramic rotary type. > > > Or light shiny metal if your a hobbit . > Kev > > -------- > Austria ...guess where I work! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212216#212216 > > -- Usando o revolucionrio cliente de e-mail do Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:45 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle From: "K Dilks" Normally recommend 2 years. try and use 40 to 50% mix with de ionised water. too much glycole reduces the flow around the system and also not so good at removing the heat. Evans coolant is the worst if you run hot as this increases the temp by up to 20c. Run normal coolant but DO use the 1.5 bar pressure cap to stop boile off. Kev -------- Austria ...guess where I work! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212222#212222 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle From: "Brian R. Wood" Thanks for the informed replies. Can you help out a little more and explain de-ionized water? If it is not available commercially, can it be "made"? Brian in Brazil Em Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:48:22 -0200, K Dilks escreveu: > > Normally recommend 2 years. try and use 40 to 50% mix with de ionised > water. too much glycole reduces the flow around the system and also not > so good at removing the heat. > Evans coolant is the worst if you run hot as this increases the temp by > up to 20c. > Run normal coolant but DO use the 1.5 bar pressure cap to stop boile > off. > Kev > > -------- > Austria ...guess where I work! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212222#212222 > > -- Usando o revolucionrio cliente de e-mail do Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:22 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle From: "K Dilks" Water they sell for batterys is the stuff,or for irons. Coolant for Toyota, BMW, and Merc all good as the only have aluminium compatable stuff. look out for some GM stuff as not good, for iron block motors only. or if into making hooch just distille some in your rig..... Kev -------- Austria ...guess where I work! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212224#212224 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:22 AM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle Hi Brian, Cast iron centrifugal type. Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com Brian R. Wood wrote: > > > What are the water pump impellers made of? > > Brian > > Em Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:46:48 -0200, K Dilks > escreveu: > >> >> The gloop is often formed over time when some one has use a little >> grease or spray ( WD40) to put the pipes on or off with. with the >> heat and glycol a small amount of the the rubber tubeing is dissolved. >> >> Never spray wd 40 type of lube in the hose as this softens the rubber. >> Hope this is of use >> >> Kev >> >> -------- >> Austria ...guess where I work! >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212212#212212 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ca ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:34:16 AM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle On Tuesday 04 November 2008 07:04, K Dilks wrote: > > Water they sell for batterys is the stuff,or for irons. > In the U.S., the stuff you're describing is sold as "distilled water." Even my grocery store carries it. ============================================= Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue. ================================================ Jim B. Belcher BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science A&P/IA Instrument Rated Pilot General Radio Telephone Certificate ================================================ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:47 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle From: "K Dilks" ........and further down the page it said, or if into making hooch just distille some in your rig..... Kev LOL z601(at)anemicaardvark.co wrote: > On Tuesday 04 November 2008 07:04, K Dilks wrote: > > > > > > > Water they sell for batterys is the stuff,or for irons. > > > > > > > > In the U.S., the stuff you're describing is sold as "distilled water." Even my > grocery store carries it. > ============================================= > Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue. > ================================================ > Jim B. Belcher > BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science > A&P/IA > Instrument Rated Pilot > General Radio Telephone Certificate > ================================================ -------- Austria ...guess where I work! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212238#212238 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:32 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Interesting reading about cable tensions From: "Martin Pohl" Interesting reading about a cable tension test on 14 XLs in Belgium: http://www.zenairulm.com/News/index_files/Page387.htm Cheers Martin -------- Martin Pohl Zodiac XL QBK 8645 Jona, Switzerland www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212240#212240 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:46:08 AM PST US From: Bryan Martin Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle Distilled water works just as well and should be commonly available. Deionized water is just water that has been passed though a device that removes the dissolved ionic compounds using electrically charged plates and permeable membranes. The process is nearly as effective at purifying water as distillation but requires less energy and can quickly produce large quantities of purified water. > > > > > Thanks for the informed replies. Can you help out a little more and > explain de-ionized water? If it is not available commercially, can > it be "made"? > > Brian in Brazil > -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:55:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle From: "Brian R. Wood" Thanks, that clears things up for me. All the gasoline stations here have distilled water, but I don't recall seeing "de-ionized" water. Brian in Brazil Em Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:45:08 -0200, Bryan Martin escreveu: > > > Distilled water works just as well and should be commonly available. > > Deionized water is just water that has been passed though a device that > removes the dissolved ionic compounds using electrically charged plates > and permeable membranes. The process is nearly as effective at purifying > water as distillation but requires less energy and can quickly produce > large quantities of purified water. > > >> >> >> >> Thanks for the informed replies. Can you help out a little more and >> explain de-ionized water? If it is not available commercially, can it >> be "made"? >> >> Brian in Brazil >> > > -- Usando o revolucionrio cliente de e-mail do Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:52:48 AM PST US From: Rick Lindstrom Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Interesting reading about cable tensions Wow! I just downloaded and printed out the 9 page Zenair Photoguide to properly checking and retensioning 601 airframe cables, and I must say I'm really impressed by it's scope and content. Should be considered required reading for y'all. IMHO. Rick Lindstrom N42KP -----Original Message----- >From: Martin Pohl >Sent: Nov 4, 2008 7:12 AM >To: zenith601-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith601-List: Interesting reading about cable tensions > > >Interesting reading about a cable tension test on 14 XLs in Belgium: > >http://www.zenairulm.com/News/index_files/Page387.htm > >Cheers Martin > >-------- >Martin Pohl >Zodiac XL QBK >8645 Jona, Switzerland >www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212240#212240 > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:08:29 AM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Interesting reading about cable tensions If you don't want to build Larry McFarland's simple and dirt cheap tension gauge Spruce sells the Burroughs gauge shown in the Zenith pictorial for well under $200. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/cablegauge.php Either way the pictorial shows the easy way to calibrate these. -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lindstrom Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:52 AM Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Interesting reading about cable tensions Wow! I just downloaded and printed out the 9 page Zenair Photoguide to properly checking and retensioning 601 airframe cables, and I must say I'm really impressed by it's scope and content. Should be considered required reading for y'all. IMHO. Rick Lindstrom N42KP -----Original Message----- >From: Martin Pohl >Sent: Nov 4, 2008 7:12 AM >To: zenith601-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith601-List: Interesting reading about cable tensions > > >Interesting reading about a cable tension test on 14 XLs in Belgium: > >http://www.zenairulm.com/News/index_files/Page387.htm > >Cheers Martin > >-------- >Martin Pohl >Zodiac XL QBK >8645 Jona, Switzerland >www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212240#212240 > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:58:17 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle Agua bi-destilada- in spanish.- Saludos Gary Gower. do not archive. --- On Tue, 11/4/08, K Dilks wrote: From: K Dilks Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle Water they sell for batterys is the stuff,or for irons. Coolant for Toyota, BMW, and Merc all good as the only have aluminium compatable stuff. look out for some GM stuff as not good, for iron block mo tors only. or if into making hooch just distille some in your rig..... Kev -------- Austria ...guess where I work! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212224#212224 =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:04:06 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Zenair Europe's comments on the Dutch accident and groundin From: "Gig Giacona" Iberplanes wrote: > Wow!! amazing and incredible. > > THX > Yep, and it kind of pissed me off when I read it. Hence, my comment about European governments. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212291#212291 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:06:17 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Interesting reading about cable tensions From: "Gig Giacona" The same info is posted in the builders area on the US Zenith site now. Just in case any of you feel the need to get it from the same company where you bought your Kit/Plans. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212293#212293 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 01:20:46 PM PST US From: "Bob McArdle" Subject: Zenith601-List: RE:Cable tension Why have we not received this photoguide from Zenith USA? Has anyone found a source for the Burroughs guage other than Spruce? ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 01:27:55 PM PST US From: Terry Phillips Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Re: Zenith-List: XL grounded in Spain Greg I am aware of two recent accidents in Australia. One into the ocean off the Gold Coast, and a later one on land. I presume that you are referring to the second accident, since you say that it "impacted the ground." While I have seen news reports about the Gold Coast accident, I cannot recall whether there have yet been any government reports about it. Do you know of any "official" reports? The US NTSB issues a preliminary report, followed by a factual report, and a probable cause report for each accident. I do not know much about how foreign governments handle aviation accidents. What reports are issued by the Australian authorities? Are those reports available on line? If not, how does one obtain a report? What is the name of the agency that investigates accidents and issues the reports? Do they have a web site? About how long does it take for them to issue a report? Thanks for letting me how your operate down there. Terry At 09:39 AM 11/3/2008 +1100, you wrote: >One thing we do know is that the accident in Australia is not as a result >on structural failure and it is suspected that pilot incapacitation may be >the cause. > >The aircraft impacted the ground intact and under power. > > >Regards, > >Greg Terry Phillips ZBAGer ttp44~at~rkymtn.net Corvallis MT 601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons are done; working on the wings http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/ ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 01:41:53 PM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: RE:Cable tension On Tuesday 04 November 2008 15:20, Bob McArdle wrote: > Why have we not received this photoguide from Zenith USA? Has anyone found > a source for the Burroughs guage other than Spruce? Here is another source for the Burroughs gauge: http://www.aircraft-tool.com/shop/detail.aspx?PRODUCT_ID=3375D&ReturnPage=/shop/search_result.aspx?PageNo=1 ..and here is a source for a less expensive gauge: http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=6803~subid=10220/index.html -- ============================================= Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue. ================================================ Jim B. Belcher BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science A&P/IA Instrument Rated Pilot General Radio Telephone Certificate ================================================ ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 01:45:29 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Cable tension From: "Gig Giacona" It's in the builders area of the US Zenith site now. What, you got something against ACS? rmacpunk(at)netzero.net wrote: > Why have we not received this photoguide from Zenith USA? Has anyone found a source for the Burroughs guage other than Spruce? > -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212304#212304 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 01:55:22 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Cable ends From: "Gig Giacona" Did anyone else notice that the photos from the Euro Zenith post had cable swage ends instead of Nico press fittings. They certainly look neater than the Nico press fittings. Does anyone know the comparable strength between the two and any pros or cons? -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212308#212308 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 01:55:25 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: RE:Cable tension From: jaybannist@cs.com The Wick's cable tension gauge won't work for a Zodiac.? This gauge for 1/8" cable has a bottom end of 100 pounds.? The Zodiac cables are from 22 to 40 pounds. Jay in Dallas -----Original Message----- From: Jim Belcher Sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 3:41 pm Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: RE:Cable tension On Tuesday 04 November 2008 15:20, Bob McArdle wrote: > Why have we not received this photoguide from Zenith USA? Has anyone found > a source for the Burroughs guage other than Spruce? Here is another source for the Burroughs gauge: http://www.aircraft-tool.com/shop/detail.aspx?PRODUCT_ID=3375D&ReturnPage=/shop/search_result.aspx?PageNo=1 ..and here is a source for a less expensive gauge: http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=6803~subid=10220/index.html -- ============================================= Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue. ================================================ Jim B. Belcher BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science A&P/IA Instrument Rated Pilot General Radio Telephone Certificate ================================================ ________________________________________________________________________ Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 02:36:13 PM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: RE:Cable tension On Tuesday 04 November 2008 15:55, jaybannist@cs.com wrote: > The Wick's cable tension gauge won't work for a Zodiac.? This gauge for > 1/8" cable has a bottom end of 100 pounds.? The Zodiac cables are from 22 > to 40 pounds. > > Jay in Dallas Thanks for catching that! ============================================= Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue. ================================================ Jim B. Belcher BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science A&P/IA Instrument Rated Pilot General Radio Telephone Certificate ================================================ ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 02:37:03 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: RE:Cable tension The problem with the Wicks gauge is its range: "Ranges 3/32: 70-300lbs, 1/8: 100-500 lbs. 5/32: 140-800 lbs." -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Belcher Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: RE:Cable tension On Tuesday 04 November 2008 15:20, Bob McArdle wrote: > Why have we not received this photoguide from Zenith USA? Has anyone found > a source for the Burroughs guage other than Spruce? Here is another source for the Burroughs gauge: http://www.aircraft-tool.com/shop/detail.aspx?PRODUCT_ID=3375D&ReturnPage=/shop/search_result.aspx?PageNo=1 ..and here is a source for a less expensive gauge: http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=6803~subid=10220/index.html -- ============================================= Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue. ================================================ Jim B. Belcher BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science A&P/IA Instrument Rated Pilot General Radio Telephone Certificate ================================================ ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 03:17:31 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: 2 Years, Waiting on NTSB From: "PLAV8R" I have not forgotten. Mom and Dad (Yuba City, Nov 4, 2006 601XL S-LSA). Way too soon, still wondering why. They where truely loved. NTSB - - Please post a probable casue.........enough said. Listen and veiw. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jgma--0WYU -------- Donald J. Dennnehey Jr. donald.j.dennehey@seagate.com Prior Lake, Minnesota Cessna 175 N7656M Cessna 140 N90123 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212319#212319 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/funeral042_303.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/funeral032_119.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/momanddad_933.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/momanddad_199.jpg ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 04:38:20 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Polish, Paint OR not From: jaybannist@cs.com I understand that 6061-T6 is very corrosion resistant.? Therefore, I only painted the fiberglass parts, invasion stripes and a little other cosmetic painting.? I actually like the look of the "raw", unpolished aluminum.? Judge for yourself. Jay in Dallas Do not archive ________________________________________________________________________ Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:28 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Polish, Paint OR not Jay- The question is, what will it look like down the road, and in less than ideal conditions like you experience in Texas? You know I love the looks of your project, but you haven't experienced the snow and other crap you get in the Northern areas. I'll have to send you a picture of what my car looks like after they start applying calcium chloride this winter. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: jaybannist@cs.com To: zenith601-list@matronics.com ; zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 7:37 PM Subject: Zenith601-List: Polish, Paint OR not I understand that 6061-T6 is very corrosion resistant. Therefore, I only painted the fiberglass parts, invasion stripes and a little other cosmetic painting. I actually like the look of the "raw", unpolished aluminum. Judge for yourself. 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