Today's Message Index:
----------------------
 
     0. 12:22 AM - Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution Today! (Matt Dralle)
     1. 06:04 AM - AMD Zodiac and Wikipedia (Martin Pohl)
     2. 06:18 AM - Re: AMD Zodiac and Wikipedia (Jay Maynard)
     3. 06:37 AM - Amperage draw (jaybannist@cs.com)
     4. 08:14 AM - Re: Re: MGL voyager glass panel. (Cndmovn)
     5. 08:17 AM - Re: AMD Zodiac and Wikipedia (Martin Pohl)
     6. 12:12 PM - Upholstery and/or carpet source for my 601XL? (KTans)
     7. 01:37 PM - Re: Upholstery and/or carpet source for my 601XL? (jaybannist@cs.com)
     8. 06:49 PM - Re: Edge Distance At Ends Of Rib Flanges (Ron Lendon)
     9. 08:32 PM - Wire Size For VDO Fuel Senders (Dave VanLanen)
    10. 09:25 PM - Re: MGL voyager glass panel. (Craig Payne)
    11. 10:05 PM - Re: MGL voyager glass panel. (K Dilks)
    12. 10:38 PM - Re: Re: MGL voyager glass panel. (Craig Payne)
 
 
 
Message 0
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution | 
      Today!
      
      
      Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
      that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of
      my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
      for the Lists. 
      
      Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
      (LOC)?  As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
      at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
      tool as your typical magazine subscription! 
      
      Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
      that you appreciate the Lists.  Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
      fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: 
      
      	http://www.matronics.com/contribution 
      
      or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: 
      
      	Matt Dralle / Matronics 
      	PO Box 347 
      	Livermore CA 94551-0347 
      
      I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
      far in this year's List Fund Raiser!  Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
      these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
      how the Lists have helped you! 
      
      Best regards, 
      
      Matt Dralle
      Matronics Email List Administrator
      
      
Message 1
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | AMD Zodiac and Wikipedia | 
      
      
      Hello Zodiac-fans
      
      Can anybody track entries within Wikipedia? I was surprised to see that recently someone added an "incident" note in the Wikipedia Zodiac XL entry, stating that the airplane is grounded in Europe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZODIAC_XL
      
      Although the note is only factual, it still seems to me that somebody wants to
      deliberately harm the good reputation of Zenair+AMD. I would be interesting to
      know who wrote this entry!
      
      Martin
      
      --------
      Martin Pohl
      Zodiac XL QBK
      8645 Jona, Switzerland
      www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213297#213297
      
      
Message 2
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: AMD Zodiac and Wikipedia | 
      
      
      On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 06:04:18AM -0800, Martin Pohl wrote:
      > Can anybody track entries within Wikipedia? I was surprised to see that
      > recently someone added an "incident" note in the Wikipedia Zodiac XL
      > entry, stating that the airplane is grounded in Europe:
      > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZODIAC_XL
      
      Anyone can see history information for an article. Click on the History tab
      at the top of the page.
      
      Looks like that note was added by someone who's not registered, or wasn't
      logged in, to Wikipedia, since all that's shown is that it was from the IP
      address 24.132.159.25.
      
      > Although the note is only factual, it still seems to me that somebody
      > wants to deliberately harm the good reputation of Zenair+AMD. I would be
      > interesting to know who wrote this entry!
      
      I disagree. The note states a demonstrable, verifiable fact, and so belongs
      in the article. Wikipedia is not just a compendium of good things about the
      subject of an article. It's entirely suitable for inclusion. Once the Dutch
      get back from vacation and do their jobs, and come up with a resolution,
      that, too, belongs in the article.
      -- 
      Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL           http://www.conmicro.com
      http://jmaynard.livejournal.com       http://www.tronguy.net
      Fairmont, MN (KFRM)                        (Yes, that's me!)
      AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml
      
      
Message 3
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      Re: 601XL - Does anyone know the actual amperage draw for 1) the old style flap
      motor, 2) landing and taxi lights and 3) position lights.
      
      Thanks in advance
      Jay in Dallas
      ________________________________________________________________________
      Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com
      
Message 4
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: MGL voyager glass panel. | 
      
      Here is my future panel......with a Voyager in it.
      
      
      On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:28 AM, K Dilks <kevin.dilks@liwest.at> wrote:
      
      >
      > Thanks , will be most grateful. did not know about the yahoo group too.
      >  Plannning ahead but nessasary for the finance minister (wife) !
      > K
      >
      >
      > craig(at)craigandjean.com wrote:
      > > I have 601XL and CH701 blank panels and a Voyager. I'll place the Voyager
      > on
      > > the panels and take some pictures. I have CAD outlines for the 601XL and
      > > CH701 panels and the Voyager and there is at least one free CAD program
      > on
      > > the Web. I'll look at uploading some CAD files and some bit-map files
      > that
      > > you could play with in the Paint program provided with Windows.
      > >
      > > If you haven't already, consider joining the Stratomaster list on Yahoo.
      > > Aside from 655 users, Rainier, Nicol and Matt from MGL hang out there.
      > >
      > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stratomaster_users_group
      > >
      > > -- Craig
      > >
      > > --
      >
      >
      > --------
      > Austria ...guess where I work!
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213212#213212
      >
      >
      
Message 5
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: AMD Zodiac and Wikipedia | 
      
      
      Jay
      
      You are right, the information might belong into Wikipedia.
      
      I was just surprised that it took only such a short time (after the dutch AD was
      released) and that somebody (who obviously knows the aircraft) puts it there.
      
      Cheers Martin
      
      --------
      Martin Pohl
      Zodiac XL QBK
      8645 Jona, Switzerland
      www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213326#213326
      
      
Message 6
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Upholstery and/or carpet source for my 601XL? | 
      
      
      Well, to save a few bucks I'll be making my own seats ... Thanks Jeff from www.ch601.org for posting your pic's and ideas on the subject, and as always Larry Mcfarland for all your help with examples (and for my custom radiator louvers!!). 
      
      I see that some of you guys use standard car seat covers over your custom foam
      seats ... I shall do the same because I cannot sew (great idea). But as for the
      carpet for sides and floor (and baggage area), I'm having a hard time with this.
      I know it should be lightweight, avoiding foam padding that could deteriorate
      over time, but I'm having trouble finding a good local source for this. I
      think standard auto carpeting would be good, with its typical insulating material
      under it. I'd be more that happy to use that in all those areas (and maybe
      without insulation for baggage area) but all I can find on the Internet so far
      is performed carpet for specific makes and model cars.
      
      Has anybody found a good source I can order from online? Hopefully some company
      that has various colors and web pic's to look at etc etc.
      
      Thanks in advance for any help!!
      
      Kevin
      
      --------
      Kevin J. Tansor
      601XL, Subaru EA81/Stratus...
      Target for completion: Spring 2009
      Private Pilot, ASEL.
      Gyrocopter Pilot/in training
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213353#213353
      
      
Message 7
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Upholstery and/or carpet source for my 601XL? | 
      
      
       Kevin,
      
      I got my upholstery fabric, backer foam sheet, carpet and an plastic upholstery
      board from Airtex Products, Inc..? I think I ordered on the web, but their phone
      no. is 215-295-4115. They mainly sell high-end stuff, but they will also sell
      small quantities. All their stuff is made for airplanes.
      
      Jay in Dallas
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: KTans <ktansor@alphasuite.com>
      Sent: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 2:11 pm
      Subject: Zenith601-List: Upholstery and/or carpet source for my 601XL?
      
      
      
      Well, to save a few bucks I'll be making my own seats ... Thanks Jeff from 
      www.ch601.org for posting your pic's and ideas on the subject, and as always 
      Larry Mcfarland for all your help with examples (and for my custom radiator 
      louvers!!). 
      
      I see that some of you guys use standard car seat covers over your custom foam
      
      seats ... I shall do the same because I cannot sew (great idea). But as for the
      
      carpet for sides and floor (and baggage area), I'm having a hard time with this.
      
      I know it should be lightweight, avoiding foam padding that could deteriorate 
      over time, but I'm having trouble finding a good local source for this. I think
      
      standard auto carpeting would be good, with its typical insulating material 
      under it. I'd be more that happy to use that in all those areas (and maybe 
      without insulation for baggage area) but all I can find on the Internet so far
      
      is performed carpet for specific makes and model cars.
      
      Has anybody found a good source I can order from online? Hopefully some company
      
      that has various colors and web pic's to look at etc etc.
      
      Thanks in advance for any help!!
      
      Kevin
      
      --------
      Kevin J. Tansor
      601XL, Subaru EA81/Stratus...
      Target for completion: Spring 2009
      Private Pilot, ASEL.
      Gyrocopter Pilot/in training
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213353#213353
      
      
      ________________________________________________________________________
      Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com
      
Message 8
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Edge Distance At Ends Of Rib Flanges | 
      
      
      Dave,
      
      What I have done is mark a rivet hole 10mm from each end and use a rivet spacing
      tool set to 40 mm or less to balance the rest of the rivet line.  That way they
      all have good even spacing and the ends are correct.
      
      Hope that helps,
      
      --------
      Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
      Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
      http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213424#213424
      
      
Message 9
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Wire Size For VDO Fuel Senders | 
      
      I tried to find information on this in the archives, but was not successful.
      Can anyone tell me what size wire I should be using for the VDO fuel
      senders?  From my reading, I understand that wire should be sized based on
      the current load of the device and any derating factor if placed in a
      bundle.  However, there is no amperage information provided with the fuel
      senders.  The only information I could find, in the assembly guide, is the
      variable resistance (from approx. 70 ohms at empty position to approx. 10
      ohms at full position).  Does the wire size actually depend on what I will
      be using on the other end for the  fuel gauges?
      
      Thanks for any help you can provide,
      Dave Van Lanen
      601XL
      
Message 10
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | MGL voyager glass panel. | 
      
      Attached are two shots of an MGL Voyager EFIS sitting on a blank 601XL
      panel. Here are Voyager's dimensions:
      
      Overall panel size:
      266mm width x 168mm height (10.47" x 6.62")
      
      Panel cutout (zero clearance):
      250mm width x 162mm height (9.84" x 6.38")
      
      Depth behind flange: (excluding connectors)
      70mm (2.76")
      
      Bezel thickness :
      4 mm (0.16")
      
      Screen dimensions:
      175mm (6.89") x 133mm (5.23") - 8.4" diagonal 4:3 format
      
      -- Craig
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K Dilks
      Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 11:30 PM
      Subject: Zenith601-List: MGL voyager glass panel.
      
      
      Has anyone got a picture they can post or link to of a MGL voyager panel in
      a 601xl ?
       I have found one of the huge Odessy but not of the newer Voyager.
       Need to try and visualize if I like it or not.
       Thanks all.
      K
      
      --------
      Austria ...guess where I work!
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213208#213208
      
      
Message 11
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: MGL voyager glass panel. | 
      
      
      Thanks a bunch , thats exactly what i was looking for.
      Surprised how big it looks on the panel, and to think I was thinking of fitting
      2 of those ha ha one for fis and the other for nav/engine.
        Same some money now I think !
      Kevin
      
      --------
      Austria ...guess where I work!
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213462#213462
      
      
Message 12
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: MGL voyager glass panel. | 
      
      Attached is a small bit-map file with the 601 panel and Voyager outlines.
      This will give you a little more accurate feel for how they fit together.
      
      -- Craig
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K Dilks
      Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 11:05 PM
      Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: MGL voyager glass panel.
      
      
      Thanks a bunch , thats exactly what i was looking for.
      Surprised how big it looks on the panel, and to think I was thinking of
      fitting 2 of those ha ha one for fis and the other for nav/engine.
        Same some money now I think !
      Kevin
      
      --------
      Austria ...guess where I work!
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213462#213462
      
      
 
Other Matronics Email List Services
 
 
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
 
 
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
  
 |