---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/19/08: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:43 AM - Re: Re: All 601XL grounded in Netherlands (Jay Maynard) 2. 12:15 PM - Re: Progress report (Brady) 3. 12:31 PM - Off and running! (Jim Belcher) 4. 02:27 PM - Re: Progress report (Gig Giacona) 5. 05:43 PM - Re: All 601XL grounded in Netherlands (Tommy Walker) 6. 05:45 PM - Re: Re: All 601XL grounded in Netherlands (David Downey) 7. 06:05 PM - Re: Re: All 601XL grounded in Netherlands (Jay Maynard) 8. 06:15 PM - Re: Off and running! (leinad) 9. 09:51 PM - Re: Off and running! (K Dilks) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:16 AM PST US From: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: All 601XL grounded in Netherlands On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 08:26:43PM -0700, Terry Phillips wrote: > The Grove gear is 7/8" thick 7075-T6 while the ZAC gear is 3/4" 6061-T6, so > the profile of the Grove gear must be significantly reduced from the ZAC > profile. It is. The Grove gear (which AMD uses) requires a spacer to hold it in position at the front of the gear channel. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:39 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Progress report From: "Brady" Ron, Congratulations! Keep up the good work. I'm not far behind you. -------- Brady McCormick Poulsbo, WA www.magnificentmachine.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=215173#215173 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:09 PM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Zenith601-List: Off and running! I picked up a 601xl kit at the factory last Friday. As of late yesterday afternoon, I'm off and running! The rudder skeleton is done, and I'm catching my breath. I did look at the 650 that was under construction while I was there. It confirmed part of my reasoning for staying with the XL. The baggage behind the seats would rub against the canopy. I suspect, in time, it would leave numberous marks. There was a lot more headroom, however. ============================================= Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue. ================================================ Jim B. Belcher BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science A&P/IA Instrument Rated Pilot General Radio Telephone Certificate ================================================ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:29 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Progress report From: "Gig Giacona" You will now be amazed how much faster you build the other wing. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=215179#215179 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:04 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: All 601XL grounded in Netherlands From: "Tommy Walker" David, I tried to send this to you privately, but I don't have your email address. There is a CZAW 601XL at my airport. It has a gross weight of 1100 lbs. I assume that it is the "European" version of the 601. I am sure there are others. This airplane came through a company in Florida. What information about this plane should the owner be aware of? If you answer, please reply to twalker@cableone.net Thanks, Tommy Walker in Alabama N8701 -------- Tommy Walker N8701 - Anniston, AL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=215188#215188 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:00 PM PST US From: David Downey Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: All 601XL grounded in Netherlands but the grove gear is half as wide isn't it? David L. Downey Harleysville-(SE) PA, USA --- On Tue, 11/18/08, David X wrote: From: David X Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: All 601XL grounded in Netherlands If by "reduced" you mean thinner, the Grove gear is actually 1/8 inch thicker (if indeed it is 7/8" vs. ZAC 3/4". 10 lbs is significant. Every bit adds up. The paint might weight 3 to 4 lb/gallon after it dries. You can save some weight by replacing the electri c flap motor with a pull lever. If you live in a warm climate, use a smaller battery and save a few lbs. The wheels make a big difference depending on w hat you choose etc. I'm sure there are a lot of weight saving tips out there. Terry Phillips wrote: > > The Grove website says that their 601XL gear is rated at 1320 lbs, and > weighs 32.2 lbs, which is about 10 lbs less than the ZAC gear (per 6-G-3) .. The Grove gear is 7/8" thick 7075-T6 while the ZAC gear is 3/4" 6061-T6, so the profile of the Grove gear must be significantly reduced fro m the ZAC profile. > -------- Zodiac 601 XL - CZAW Built - Rotax 912S DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=215104#215104 =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:36 PM PST US From: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: All 601XL grounded in Netherlands On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 05:44:25PM -0800, David Downey wrote: > but the grove gear is half as wide isn't it? Not that narrow...a quick guess without looking at the airplane says it's 2/3 to 3/4 as wide. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:49 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Off and running! From: "leinad" Jim, Congratulations on getting started, and welcome to the builders club. I look forward to hearing about your progress. Dan Dempsey z601(at)anemicaardvark.co wrote: > I picked up a 601xl kit at the factory last Friday. As of late yesterday > afternoon, I'm off and running! The rudder skeleton is done, and I'm catching > my breath. > > I did look at the 650 that was under construction while I was there. It > confirmed part of my reasoning for staying with the XL. The baggage behind > the seats would rub against the canopy. I suspect, in time, it would leave > numberous marks. > > There was a lot more headroom, however. > ============================================= > Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue. > ================================================ > Jim B. Belcher > BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science > A&P/IA > Instrument Rated Pilot > General Radio Telephone Certificate > ================================================ -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=215196#215196 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:49 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Off and running! From: "K Dilks" Ooh boy Im keep to get started, mine supposed to arrive tomorrow but the weather and Customs may play a part. Wish you luck, im hoping for a busy weekend........! Kevin -------- Austria ............. 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