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1. 03:46 AM - Re: Angle Drill Attachments (Debo Cox)
2. 04:00 AM - Re: Aileron flutter (chris Sinfield)
3. 04:04 AM - Re: 6-B-3 Rivet spacing on bottom skin (jaybannist@cs.com)
4. 04:23 AM - Re: 6-B-3 Rivet spacing on bottom skin (Ron Lendon)
5. 08:21 AM - Re: labeling parts for painting (sdthatcher)
6. 09:02 AM - Re: labeling parts for painting (stepinwolf)
7. 10:48 AM - Re: 6-B-3 Rivet spacing on bottom skin (Ron Lendon)
8. 11:01 AM - Re: labeling parts for painting (n85ae)
9. 03:37 PM - Re: Angle Drill Attachments (Bill Naumuk)
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| Subject: | Re: Angle Drill Attachments |
Hey Dave!
I second Jay's recommendation for the "Tight-Fit" drill. I didn't use it much until
I got to the fuselage, but have used it almost daily since. Even though it
does take two hands to operate, there are times when the rigidity of it are
needed. A snake attachment wouldn't provide that. Like most things, you'll probably
find a use for both but I'd start with the drill kit.
I bought the "Tight-Fit Drill Kit" from Aircraft Spruce, but as Jay noted you can
get it other places. Get a couple of extra bits too. I'm getting ready to order
a couple myself.
Debo Cox
Nags Head, NC
Scratchbuilt XL/Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/debo
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron flutter |
welcome Scott to XL building.
Sorry if my first response sounded cold. As someone else said there is a person
who has joined a lot of lists of late and its almost like a mass email message
badmouthing the XL and all things Zenith.
I for one think the XL is a great plane and am 3/4 the way through building. Am
I going to continue, yes. why..
1. The Hinze family believe it is safe, Chris lets his own kids fly in the planes
he designed. what parent would not put the safety of their kids first.
2. the XL plane has been looked at intensely by a number of organizations FAA LAA
RAA ect ect. if it passes their design criteria without a major change then
to me thats going to be a great safety advertising and selling point. if they
find something even better, as once the change is made it is been checked and
safe to fly..
3. reality check, I saw a Cesnna crashed the other day. all planes may crash if
flown outside the design envelope.
4. Flutter.. saw it happen on a balanced C130 Aileron, plane nearly crashed .
Build it fly it learn it and enjoy it. .
Chris.
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| Subject: | Re: 6-B-3 Rivet spacing on bottom skin |
Ron,
My reading of the drawing is that the 560 dimension is the cutout, not the rivet
centerline.
Jay in Dallas
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From: Ron Lendon <rlendon@comcast.net>
Sent: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 9:09 pm
Subject: Zenith601-List: 6-B-3 Rivet spacing on bottom skin
I am scratch building and wanted to confirm my best guess on the rivet spacing
on the bottom skin. It looks like the perimeter (longeron) edges spacing could
remain a constant of 9.5mm.
The other question is are the dimensions from front to back 235, 225, 245, 270
rivet centerlines? The next dimension 560 is the cutout edge and not the rivet
centerline. The we have 400, 400, 400, 340 which appear to be on the rivet
centerlines.
I want to layout the entire bottom skin rivet holes and cutouts but am a little
unclear of the actual dimensions shown on the print. If I make all the
dimensions to the rivet hole centerlines then the 560 cutout will be more like
540, probably not a show stopper just don't want to make a mistake.
The date on the print is 8/05
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Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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| Subject: | Re: 6-B-3 Rivet spacing on bottom skin |
That's my reading also. However if I stack all the dimensions +10mm for the rear
rivet line spacing I get the total dimension of the length of the bottom skin.
235+225+245+270+560+400+400+400+340+10=1385
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Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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| Subject: | Re: labeling parts for painting |
Hi Kevin,
I used the Sharpie Method for marking parts but made the mistake of using it on
surfaces that would later be polished. The especially embarrassing notes I had
made on the fuselage skin included "This side up".
Now when people look at the polished surface they see the faint letters "This side
up" and immediately start laughing!
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Scott Thatcher, Palm Beach Gardens, FL
601XL with Corvair, Registered as E-LSA
N601EL, EAA203 25 hours and climbing.
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| Subject: | Re: labeling parts for painting |
Scott,
In the future you might want to use the " Dry Erasable markers " from Sharpie,
that are sold for the White message boards. These can be easily erased with
your finger, ( no need for any toxic liquids ) and they leave no marks on the
surface after they have been removed.
Robert
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| Subject: | Re: 6-B-3 Rivet spacing on bottom skin |
Just talked to Roger and I will be making the access hole 540mm rather than 560mm.
Now all the numbers line up front to back.
Also going to use 9mm edge spacing for the longeron rivet lines.
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Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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| Subject: | Re: labeling parts for painting |
I use a set of number/letter stamps and stamp a label on the parts with
a hammer. It is fast and legible through the paint. Take about 10 seconds
per part.
Regards,
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Angle Drill Attachments |
Angle Drill AttachmentsDave-
I picked up an HF corded right angle drill, not just an adaptor, on
sale for $30. I keep broken drill bits for use with it for the really
tight spaces. It works, but I wish the chuck was keyed- it's kind of
hard to get a good grip on a chunk of drill bit with a keyless chuck.
Sands your thumb and forefinger a bit. And the cord is a PIA, but you'll
get your $30 worth of use out of it.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave VanLanen
To: zenith-list@matronics.com ; zenith601-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:08 PM
Subject: Zenith601-List: Angle Drill Attachments
I'm planning to purchase an angle drill attachment for getting into
tight spaces. I noticed that there are the "regular" right-angle drill
attachments, and then there are snake right-angle drill attachments
available as well. Has anyone used both a "regular" right-angle drill
attachment and a snake right-angle drill attachment, and if so, which do
you prefer?
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