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     1. 07:21 AM - Re: Grounding Of Fuel Senders (n85ae)
     2. 07:25 AM - Re: Grounding Of Fuel Senders (Bryan Martin)
     3. 12:50 PM - Attention Corvair Builders (Brady)
     4. 07:32 PM - Project in EAA Newsletter (PatrickW)
     5. 07:50 PM - Simple rivet test/unzip (n85ae)
     6. 09:48 PM - Re: Simple rivet test/unzip (Sabrina)
     7. 09:58 PM - Re: Re: Simple rivet test/unzip (Paul Mulwitz)
     8. 10:19 PM - Re: Simple rivet test/unzip (Sabrina)
     9. 10:48 PM - Re: Re: Simple rivet test/unzip (Paul Mulwitz)
    10. 11:00 PM - Re: Simple rivet test/unzip (Sabrina)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Grounding Of Fuel Senders | 
      
      
      Connect a ground lead to it the sender, and run a return anyway. It
      might leave you scratching your head why, if the the thing is grounded
      anyway? 
      
      It's a simple, safe practice thing to do. Which if you follow religiously
      will leave you with radios that are crystal clear, and an intercom
      with no noise, etc.  
      
      The best way to avoid, electrical/avionics trouble in a plane, is simply
      pretend the entire airframe is made of plastic, and treat every electrical
      device accordingly.
      
      Regards,
      Jeff
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219057#219057
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Grounding Of Fuel Senders | 
      
      
      You should have separate ground leads for all of you avionics and  
      other circuits in the cabin, that is where ground loops are most  
      likely to cause problems. Grounding the lights and fuel senders in the  
      wings to the airframe shouldn't cause any issues.
      
      
      On Dec 11, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Dave VanLanen wrote:
      
      > I have attended a couple of forums at AirVenture on the subject of  
      > aircraft electrical systems, and the presenters have been consistent  
      > in recommending the routing of a return wire from every component to  
      > the universal ground bus, to help insure that there are no ground  
      > loops introduced into the system that can cause electrical problems.
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Bryan Martin
      N61BM, CH 601 XL,
      RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Attention Corvair Builders | 
      
      
      To Whom it may concern:
      
      We have updated our website, www.magnificentmachine.com, with some technical articles that are aimed at answering the most common questions relating to our products and the Corvair.
      Also these articles address some of the more common engine issues and some of the
      ways in which we address them.
      This section is called Tech Talk and is where we will post all of our Products
      Testing Data.
      
      The articles are written by "Uncle Mike" because he is a far better writer than
      I am and his engine building experience goes far back to the days of Flat head
      engines and probably back to the days of wooden spokes though he won't admit
      it. Smile
      
      The First Forged 4340 crankshaft sample is now in an engine case with a cam shaft
      and will be running before too long.
      This engine will be equipped with our entirely NEW rotating assembly as well as
      the rest of our newest products.
      The first set of all aluminum Nikasil Cylinders will be installed and tested on
      this engine as well.
      We will have this engine at the upcoming Corvair College #13 being held In Livermore,
      CA.
      
      For further details of the Corvair College #13 event see
      www.flycorvair.com or
      www.flaglvk.com
      
      Thank you,
      
      --------
      Brady McCormick
      Poulsbo, WA
      www.magnificentmachine.com
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219111#219111
      
      
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| Subject:  | Project in EAA Newsletter | 
      
      
      Short article and pictures of my XL project in local EAA newsletter.
      
      http://www.eaa25.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/eaa25812.pdf
      
      - Pat
      
      --------
      Patrick
      601XL/Corvair
      N63PZ (reserved)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219154#219154
      
      
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| Subject:  | Simple rivet test/unzip | 
      
      
      This evening ...
      
      I took two pieces of .025 500mm long, riveted them with A4's at 40mm 
      pitch. clamped the end of one in a vice, and grabbed the other piece
      with a pair of vice grips. One sharp tug unzipped the entire strip with
      very little effort .... Every single rivet head popped right off like butter.
      
      Riveted with the zenith hand riveter and zenith concave head.
      
      Food for thought.
      
      Regards,
      Jeff
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219159#219159
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Simple rivet test/unzip | 
      
      
      "riveted them with A4's at 40mm ... One sharp tug unzipped the entire strip...
      right off like butter."
      
      add the new "triangle and house aileron gussets," use A5 SS rivets on the gussets
      and try that again...
      
      ;O)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219169#219169
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Simple rivet test/unzip | 
      
      
      What new gussets?
      
      At 09:48 PM 12/12/2008, you wrote:
      
      >add the new "triangle and house aileron gussets," use A5 SS rivets 
      >on the gussets and try that again...
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Simple rivet test/unzip | 
      
      
      I designed my aileron gussets in January, they were/are external, 6061-T6 and .060
      w/A5 SS rivets.   
      
      They were my response to the unzipping of 601 ailerons in light of an examination
      of in-flight video by myself, my IA and my test pilot.  The inboard one looks
      like a triangle, the next outboard, like a house.  
      
      Zenith has incorporated similar ones on the 650, I am told they are internal and
      thinner.  I know some builders have ordered them and installed them on their
      601s. Zenith has their own reasons for the design change.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219171#219171
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Simple rivet test/unzip | 
      
      
      Thanks Sabrina,
      
      Do you think the rest of us should consider adding these gussets?  Do 
      they apply equally to hingeless or hinge type ailerons?
      
      I still can't quite imagine exactly what these gussets do or where 
      they go.  Which rivets on the aileron can unzip?  The Hinge area?  On the ribs?
      
      Thanks,
      
      Paul
      XL getting close
      
      
      At 10:18 PM 12/12/2008, you wrote:
      >I designed my aileron gussets in January, they were/are external, 
      >6061-T6 and .060  w/A5 SS rivets.
      >
      >They were my response to the unzipping of 601 ailerons in light of 
      >an examination of in-flight video by myself, my IA and my test 
      >pilot.  The inboard one looks like a triangle, the next outboard, 
      >like a house.
      >
      >Zenith has incorporated similar ones on the 650, I am told they are 
      >internal and thinner.  I know some builders have ordered them and 
      >installed them on their 601s. Zenith has their own reasons for the 
      >design change.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Simple rivet test/unzip | 
      
      
      I would rely upon Zenith and install their gussets per their specifications.  CH
      knows what he is doing.  If anyone has the new plans, maybe they could describe
      the 650 versions.   The AMD safety alert seems to talk to this issue:
       http://www.newplane.com/Service_Letters_Bulletines/SAFETY_ALERT_october_29_2008.pdf
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219177#219177
      
      
 
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