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1. 07:22 AM - Re: Simple rivet test/unzip (Jeyoung65@aol.com)
2. 08:12 AM - Re: Simple rivet test/unzip (Jim Belcher)
3. 08:45 AM - Re: Simple rivet test/unzip (Cndmovn)
4. 08:52 AM - Thrust Line and engine choice (hermanmullis@aol.com)
5. 09:17 AM - Re: Re: Simple rivet test/unzip (Terry Turnquist)
6. 09:20 AM - Re: Simple rivet test/unzip (Tim Juhl)
7. 09:38 AM - Re: Simple rivet test/unzip (Jim Belcher)
8. 10:17 AM - Re: Simple rivet test/unzip (Sabrina)
9. 12:08 PM - Re: Thrust Line and engine choice (heisan)
10. 06:33 PM - Re: Re: Simple rivet test/unzip (Randy)
11. 08:23 PM - Re: Simple rivet test/unzip (Sabrina)
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| Subject: | Re: Simple rivet test/unzip |
Jeff, when you tugged on the strip, what angle were your tug with the
clamped piece? Or, was the rivet in shear or tension. Would expect the rivet heads
to pop off if your tug was 90 degrees to the clamped part but if it was 180
degrees then there is a problem. Jerry of Ga DO NOT ARCHIVE
In a message dated 12/12/2008 10:52:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
n85ae@yahoo.com writes:
--> Zenith601-List message posted by: "n85ae" <n85ae@yahoo.com>
This evening ...
I took two pieces of .025 500mm long, riveted them with A4's at 40mm
pitch. clamped the end of one in a vice, and grabbed the other piece
with a pair of vice grips. One sharp tug unzipped the entire strip with
very little effort .... Every single rivet head popped right off like butter.
Riveted with the zenith hand riveter and zenith concave head.
Food for thought.
Regards,
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Simple rivet test/unzip |
It's Saturday, which means Zenith is closed, and I'mn trying to identify a
part. Can any of you help me on this?
The part in question are the AS5 rivets. Where are they likely to be packed?
Are they identified specifically as AS5 rivets, or ?
TIA.
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| Subject: | Re: Simple rivet test/unzip |
Mine in a small ziplock plastic bag maybe 1" x 3" Label written in marker
on bag
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Jim Belcher <Z601@anemicaardvark.com>wrote:
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> It's Saturday, which means Zenith is closed, and I'mn trying to identify a
> part. Can any of you help me on this?
>
> The part in question are the AS5 rivets. Where are they likely to be
> packed?
> Are they identified specifically as AS5 rivets, or ?
>
> TIA.
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| Subject: | Thrust Line and engine choice |
Dear Justin,
i am building an XL with a R1100 S BMW, but several of my friends have Bmers
i just flew behind a Bmer on the HD in November and it is an excellent choic
e!
It should also do well on the HDS.
Fuel Injected, Air and Oil cooled, >90 hp and stingy on fuel.
Also, no need to change the thrust line!
Got my engine from a crashed bike with 11000 km and the gearbox in the Cz Re
p.=C2-
Maybe you can find a BMW motocycle engine in South Africa?
Best of luck!
HKM
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| Subject: | Re: Simple rivet test/unzip |
As I am just finishing the wings, could someone at least describe the positioning
of the aileron gussets? I'm too dense to visualize! Thanks.
Terry Turnquist
601XL-Plans
St. Peters MO
I would rely upon Zenith and install their gussets per their specifications. CH
knows what he is doing. If anyone has the new plans, maybe they could describe
the 650 versions. The AMD safety alert seems to talk to this issue:
http://www.newplane.com/Service_Letters_Bulletines/SAFETY_ALERT_october_29_2008.pdf
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| Subject: | Re: Simple rivet test/unzip |
Did anyone ever determine how many of the aircraft that experienced wing loss in
flight had hinged ailerons? Could it be that the hingeless design is less prone
to the problems that are currently the focus of investigators?
Sabrina, do you have any pictures of your installed aileron gussets?
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: Simple rivet test/unzip |
On Saturday 13 December 2008 10:45, Cndmovn wrote:
> Mine in a small ziplock plastic bag maybe 1" x 3" Label written in marker
> on bag
Thanks! Armed with that information, I found them. You likely saved me an hour
or two of fumbling, as I had no idea what size container I should seek.
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| Subject: | Re: Simple rivet test/unzip |
Tim, I am in Chicago, studying for finals. I do not have access to many post-build
photos. Someone has to have the revised 6-W-2. Some of you have written
to me off list and said you installed the new 650 gussets on your 601. What
is the revision date of the new 6-W-2? Whose name is under the word "Aileron"?
Do you have photos?
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| Subject: | Re: Thrust Line and engine choice |
I have been looking at all the various engine conversions out there. The BMW is
certainly one of the nicest. Very good power to weight ratio, and (at least
the oil heads) fairly easy to cool.
Engines are also readily available here, but again the problem is cost. I went
through the exercise of pricing a complete engine (base engine, overhaul, redrive,
dual ignition, dual injection system, exhaust...), and came out at around
USD 10k. Basically 3 times the price of a VW for 15% more power. (OK the BMW
is half the weight too, which is a big plus.)
Unfortunately, at the moment, my budget dictates a VW, so I am going to have to
try and make it work...
Justin
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| Subject: | Re: Simple rivet test/unzip |
I checked Zenith website and they added (for the 650) a gusset to Rib 1 & 2.
The stated reason was to reduce possible buckling when tied down in wind
gusts.
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sabrina" <chicago2paris@msn.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:16 PM
Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Simple rivet test/unzip
>
> Tim, I am in Chicago, studying for finals. I do not have access to
> many post-build photos. Someone has to have the revised 6-W-2. Some of
> you have written to me off list and said you installed the new 650 gussets
> on your 601. What is the revision date of the new 6-W-2? Whose name is
> under the word "Aileron"? Do you have photos?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Simple rivet test/unzip |
Randy, did you find pricing or drawings of the gussets on the webpage?
Alex--you had indicated your aircraft was always kept in a hanger, correct?
What did Zenith say in response to the photos of your piano hinged aileron skin
buckling during flight?
Did they mention the gussets?
Did they mention what AMD will do after a report under Part B of their recent Safety
Letter?
Are you back in the air?
How do you feel about the 111 MPH speed limit for the XL? (in Germany)
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