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1. 02:05 AM - aero-BMW info (hermanmullis@aol.com)
2. 11:08 AM - Re: Thrust Line and engine choice (Brady)
3. 11:56 AM - Re: Thrust Line and engine choice (MikeinPE)
4. 01:04 PM - Re: Thrust Line and engine choice (Brady)
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Dale-
There are no easy sources for the BMW conversion!
i started with by looking at the old Zenith files.
Then googled BMW aircraft and found lots of homebuilders in Europe with thes
e engines.
One of them led me to:
www.takeoff-ul.de
Which has an English translation but poorly done. =C2-They specialise in p
ushers and are expensive!
Here is another German source:
http://www.silent-hektik.de/
They specialize in fuel injection and are also expensive!
Finally, i spoke to sales at Woodcomp propellers in CZ, who told me about Bo
ris Lange of Kostonice.
Boris has a flight school in the Cz Rep which started with a crashed 601, wh
ich he repaired.
It's still flying and now has over +3000 hours with the Bmer engine (also a
crash).=C2-
i flew it also, over a year ago on a cold November day.
It took 5 minutes of taxiing to get the oil temp up to normal! =C2-
He now has 3 aircraft, all with Bmers, all with >1000 hours on the engines.
Boris told me that his business depends on the BMW engines because his stude
nts can't afford the fuel on the Rotax!!
One of his students is now flying as a passenger pilot in Arizona!
However, Boris speaks only Czech and Russian, so i had to get a German-Czech
Translator.
He built my gearbox. =C2-He has also built 20 more gearboxes for friends a
nd clients. =C2-Including me.
Up he recommends the R1150 R Bmer engine and you must send him the Brain box
as well.
Getting a good engine is the first problem, with all t
he electrical! =C2-But no tranny or flywheel.
Mine cost me 1000 u$d. =C2-It's a 2001 R1100 S.
The 1200 series engines have more power but a new and more complicated Brain
box and cannot be reprogrammed for flight!
You must get a new one from SH above, since BMW will charge you an arm and a
leg and is useless for flight!
Boris does not make gearboxes for the 1200 because of this! =C2-He uses al
l original BMW parts.
Right off the bike!
If you have access to metal shop you could probably make your own gearbox us
ing a Rotax gearbox and a clutch!
Another guy who is flying a Cherry, used a Hirth gearbox and a clutch from T
ake-Off.
The BMW engine is the only fuel injected, air cooled engine that you can lit
erally, take off the bike and bolt on and fly without mods!
Right now, i am cutting down the profile and moving the alternator in order
to make it fit under the cowl,=C2-
but Boris just cut the top of the cowl for his first conversion. =C2-Ugly,
but cheap!
The whole thing weighs about 80kg and produces >90 hp.
So far, it's cost me ~5000 u$d for the engine, gearbox and prop.
HKM
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Subject: | Re: Thrust Line and engine choice |
Justin,
Look into the Corvair.
You can build a Corvair for about the same price as the VW.
More power not much more weight and there are dozens of flying examples.
The Corvair is much smoother than the VW as well.
Weight is less of an issue with the 601 than it would be for the 701.
It's worth a look.
If you have any trouble finding an engine let me know I have 30 of them.
Parts are easy to find as well as reasonably priced.
Just a thought.
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Brady McCormick
Poulsbo, WA
www.magnificentmachine.com
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Subject: | Re: Thrust Line and engine choice |
Hi Brady
Here in South Africa it is a problem finding Corvairs. I will be interested in
1 of the 30 that you have sometime in 2009. Please let me know what I'm going
to be in for costwise
Regards
Mike
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Subject: | Re: Thrust Line and engine choice |
Mike,
I have a customer in Johannesburg. (He bought one of my Prop hubs.)
He and his friend Norman were talking about getting some Corvair Kits together.
This would be a kit that comprised of all the Parts necessary to assemble the running
engine.
All the parts that require rebuilding or machining would already be done.
I imagine it would cost about 6 to $8,000 (US) depending on options and upgrades.
Shipping would be by container ship; so ordering ahead of time is a good idea.
If you are interested you can contact me directly.
It doesn't seem to be cost effective to send you a core engine because the shipping
would be the same for a complete kit.
Then you have to have all the parts shipped from their respective suppliers individually
and the shipping cost alone would be prohibitive.
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Brady McCormick
Poulsbo, WA
www.magnificentmachine.com
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