---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/19/08: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:59 AM - Re: Corvair Block Question (Brady) 2. 12:31 PM - ANGRY IN ENGLAND (GBzodiflyer) 3. 12:44 PM - Re: ANGRY IN ENGLAND (Paul Mulwitz) 4. 09:45 PM - Re: ANGRY IN ENGLAND (JohnDRead@aol.com) 5. 11:49 PM - Re: ANGRY IN ENGLAND (Sabrina) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:59:53 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Corvair Block Question From: "Brady" Bill, As Roy said on the other list, "it's an oil fill" but rather than plug it, why not just use it as your oil fill? you're going to need one any way. :) It's on the correct side and it will allow you to avoid modifying you valve cover. If you can make it work out for you it might be an advantage. Just a thought? -------- Brady McCormick Poulsbo, WA www.magnificentmachine.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=220166#220166 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:39 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: ANGRY IN ENGLAND From: "GBzodiflyer" Here in england , we the xl owners and builders have been grounded now for around two months !!!!!!!. :x this has been brought about by various incidents around the world and most recently ,the netherlands incident , all have the same result , wings folding and people getting killed . our caa and laa has deemed it necessary to investigate the design ,along with other agency's around the world . If there is nothing wrong with our air frames ,because they are all the same , i have both czaw drgs and usa drgs . why are we waiting for chris heinz to reply to our LAA , with regard to some points of concern, If indeed he sees nothing wrong then why not at the very least acknowledge the fact that he has had the mail. do you guys in the states really think that you are exempt from this ? do you think that a reduction in mtow and vne is the answer as the Germans have done , because we dont . we have spent good money on these aircraft , all we ask for is some reasonable response . what do you guys in the USA and indeed any other really think . cmon. [b]HAPPY XMAS . [Wink] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=220183#220183 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:44:59 PM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: ANGRY IN ENGLAND I think you might get much more reasonable responses if you included your name in your posted messages. If you are not willing to identify yourself some people might question your sincerity. Paul XL getting close do not archive At 12:31 PM 12/19/2008, you wrote: >what do you guys in the USA and indeed any other really think . cmon. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:10 PM PST US From: JohnDRead@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: ANGRY IN ENGLAND Oh Please! Stop wingeing Angry! Do not archive. John Read Phone: 303-648-3261 Fax: 303-648-3262 Cell: 719-494-4567 **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! cemailfooterNO62) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:49:46 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: ANGRY IN ENGLAND From: "Sabrina" Merry Christmas Gary, First off, you have a beautiful airplane. I noticed that your aircraft does not have steps. What additional bracing across the mid-fuselage did you add to provide the stiffness lost without them? Do you think your rear spar attach points might flex more without the steps, than with them? In your post, I notice that you assert that the CZAW & USA craft are all the same, i have both czaw drgs and usa drgs Here, in the US, we have a tendency to build our aircraft to our own liking. Just as I have never seen an XL without steps, some have never seen one without a full width panel. We each incorporate our own personality into the aircraft. From skin thickness differences seen in some EU craft, to removal of some items, to the addition of others, our aircraft are not all the same and our NTSB and FAA recognize this. Why are we waiting for chris heinz to reply you ask, I have received several e-mails from source(s) involved in your LAA inquiry, as I am sure other builders have. These inquires focus on our modifications and the reasons for them. If all the aircraft that went down were all the same, I am sure CHs response would have come sooner. However, they are not, your own aircraft is a prime example of that. As an LAA inspector, you must have seen this time and time again. This list is populated more by builders than buyers of XLs, we have spent much more time than money, and are more patient than those who have invested only good money and not their heart and souls. As others have said before, let's not rush to judgment. Anger only breeds mistakes. 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