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1. 02:16 AM - Re: Elevator bias spring (Martin Pohl)
2. 08:05 AM - Re: Re: Elevator bias spring (Terry Phillips)
3. 09:28 AM - Re: Elevator bias spring (Martin Pohl)
4. 09:46 AM - Re: Re: Elevator bias spring (Terry Phillips)
5. 01:10 PM - Re: Elevator bias spring (chris Sinfield)
6. 01:36 PM - Re: Re: Elevator bias spring (Paul Mulwitz)
7. 01:47 PM - Canopy and Cold Weather (shipping) ? (PatrickW)
8. 02:47 PM - Re: Canopy and Cold Weather (shipping) ? (jaybannist@cs.com)
9. 05:05 PM - Re: Canopy and Cold Weather (shipping) ? (chris Sinfield)
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator bias spring |
Jay & Dave
Have a look at the attached drawing 6-BO-4CZ: This is the installation of the "elevator
bias spring" required by LAA UK on CZAW CH601XL.
Cheers Martin
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Martin Pohl
Zodiac XL QBK
8645 Jona, Switzerland
www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator bias spring |
Martin
Does the LAA require the bias spring on aircraft that have the full width
elevator trim tabs (i.e., as changed in updates 2005b)? Or is it only
required on aircraft with the original, narrower elevator trim tabs?
Thanks.
Terry
At 02:15 AM 1/5/2009 -0800, you wrote:
>Jay & Dave
>
>Have a look at the attached drawing 6-BO-4CZ: This is the installation of
>the "elevator bias spring" required by LAA UK on CZAW CH601XL.
>
>Cheers Martin
Terry Phillips ZBAGer
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons
are done; working on the wings
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator bias spring |
Terry
Both full width elevator trim and elevator bias spring are required by UK LAA (see TADS: http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/engineering/TADs/162B%20ZENAIR%20CH601-XL.pdf).
I saw a flight test report that was issued by the test pilot of the UK LAA. He
wrote that the aircraft is not trimmable with full flaps extended, even with the
full width elevator trim.
Martin
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Martin Pohl
Zodiac XL QBK
8645 Jona, Switzerland
www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator bias spring |
Thanks, Martin!
At 09:27 AM 1/5/2009 -0800, you wrote:
>Terry
>
>Both full width elevator trim and elevator bias spring are required by UK
>LAA (see TADS:
>http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/engineering/TADs/162B%20ZENAIR%20CH601-XL.pdf).
>
>I saw a flight test report that was issued by the test pilot of the UK
>LAA. He wrote that the aircraft is not trimmable with full flaps extended,
>even with the full width elevator trim.
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Terry Phillips ZBAGer
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons
are done; working on the wings
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator bias spring |
OK I cannot read the words about the size or strength of the spring required for
full flap, anyone expand on this? and
how is it different from other XL's as I thought the Idea of the full size trim
was so you can still do a circuit with full flaps and fly hands off with full
elevator trim.?
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator bias spring |
One thing which varies a great deal among XLs is the engine
weight. I think this could have a large impact on the trim required
under some conditions like full flaps.
Paul
XL getting close
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At 01:10 PM 1/5/2009, you wrote:
>how is it different from other XL's as I thought the Idea of the
>full size trim was so you can still do a circuit with full flaps and
>fly hands off with full elevator trim.?
>Chris
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| Subject: | Canopy and Cold Weather (shipping) ? |
Getting ready to order my canopy kit (650 style for XL).
Does anybody have any experiences or horror stories regarding shipment of that
big plastic bubble in the winter? Does it stand up well to the rigors of being
bounced around on trucks & loading docks during the winter?
I live in MN.
Does anyone know the dimensions of the crate?
Thanks,
- Patrick
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Patrick
601XL/Corvair
N63PZ (reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy and Cold Weather (shipping) ? |
Patrick,
Last month, I went with a friend to Mexico, MO, to get his XL QB kit.? We loaded
all the parts in a 22' truck, padded and tied down.? When we left Mexico, it
was 16 degF.? The truck suspension was real stiff and all the roads seemed really
rough. We bounced a lot!? The canopy bubble (and everything else) came through
OK.?
If you are having your's delivered, ZAC will crate it.? I can assure you that they
know what they are doing when it comes to crating.? You have nothing to worry
about, unless someone does something really stupid, like ramming the crate
with fork truck forks, or dropping a crate from 6' up.
Jay in Dallas
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-----Original Message-----
From: PatrickW <pwhoyt@yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 3:47 pm
Subject: Zenith601-List: Canopy and Cold Weather (shipping) ?
Getting ready to order my canopy kit (650 style for XL).
Does anybody have any experiences or horror stories regarding shipment of that
big plastic bubble in the winter? Does it stand up well to the rigors of being
bounced around on trucks & loading docks during the winter?
I live in MN.
Does anyone know the dimensions of the crate?
Thanks,
- Patrick
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Patrick
601XL/Corvair
N63PZ (reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy and Cold Weather (shipping) ? |
shipping damage,you mean like this?
Zenith was great and sent replacements for all the broken stuff as the shipping
Co was at fault.. drove a forklift through the ends.
Chris.
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