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1. 04:43 AM - Re: W&B 601XL (Martin Pohl)
2. 05:17 AM - Re: Re: Re: W&B 601XL--Whoops (Iberplanes IGL)
3. 07:08 AM - Re: Canopy and Cold Weather (shipping) ? (skyridersbn)
4. 11:12 AM - Received my 650 plans!! (MikeinPE)
5. 11:42 AM - parts location (Jim Belcher)
6. 12:59 PM - Re: Received my 650 plans!! (aerobat)
7. 01:01 PM - Re: parts location ()
8. 01:25 PM - Re: parts location (chris Sinfield)
9. 04:17 PM - WARNING Tom Henderson (ella)
10. 05:10 PM - Re: WARNING Tom Henderson (Gig Giacona)
11. 06:48 PM - Re: WARNING Tom Henderson (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
12. 07:30 PM - Re: W&B 601XL (PatrickW)
13. 09:03 PM - Re: Re: parts location (Gary Gower)
14. 09:11 PM - Re: Re: W&B 601XL (Gary Gower)
15. 09:39 PM - Tire Pressure (Thruster87)
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If anybody is interested in where the CZAW and european ULM versions have their
BRS installed, have a look at the ULM-drawings (6-UL-5).
I am not sure if the 600kg BRS-version would fit right behind the firewall? The
ULM version only needs the lighter 450kg parachute.
Martin
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Martin Pohl
Zodiac XL QBK
8645 Jona, Switzerland
www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL
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| Subject: | Re: W&B 601XL--Whoops |
yeah, but the most impressive was the French XL Clone.
2009/1/7 Terry Phillips <ttp44@rkymtn.net>
>
> I need to read further down. It was Hungary.
>
> Terry
>
> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:21:39 -0700
>> To: zenith601-list@matronics.com
>> From: Terry Phillips <ttp44@rkymtn.net>
>> Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Re: W&B 601XL
>>
>> I believe it was Minnesota. See:
>>
>>
>> http://brsparachutes.com/files/Documents/Press%20Releases/PR%20Saves%20212-213.pdf
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>> Terry
>>
>>
>> At 04:04 PM 1/6/2009 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>>> It has already been tested and (as I recall) the pilot and passenger
>>> walked
>>> away. Picture attached. Was it Poland or the Czech Republic?
>>>
>>> -- Craig
>>>
>>
>>
>> Terry Phillips ZBAGer
>> ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
>> Corvallis MT
>> 601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons
>> are done; working on the wings
>> http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
>>
>
>
> Terry Phillips ZBAGer
> ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
> Corvallis MT
> 601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons
> are done; working on the wings
> http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
>
>
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Alberto Martin
www.iberplanes.es
Igualada - Barcelona - Spain
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Zodiac 601 XL Builder
Serial: 6-7011
Tail Kit: Finished
Wings: Not Started
Fuselage: Ordered
Engine: Jabiru 3300
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy and Cold Weather (shipping) ? |
Hey Patrick. If you are worried about how well the canopy is packed and if it
can handle the bouncing of the shipment, take a look at the picture I have attached.
I just picked up my fuselage and canopy kit for my 650. I hauled it in
a single axle trailer. As a former truck driver, I can assure you, my trailer
bounces a ton more than any semi truck does. The crate is so well packaged,
the canopy sits on a mountain of paper and is encased with more paper. If you
are just now getting ready to order your canopy, it might be warmer weather
before you see it. I converted my 601 to the 650 just after it came out at Oshkosh.
I just NOW got my order. Hope you get yours faster than I got mine!
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Larry Hursh (N650LM Reserved)
CH601XL (Conversion to CH650)
Starting fuselage
will be Corvair Powered
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| Subject: | Received my 650 plans!! |
Christmas present a little later than the 25th but I am ecstatic. Received the
plans yesterday. Building will be at a fairly slow pace as I am regularly out
of town. Now I feel much more a part of this list!!
Mike
Port Elizabeth
South Africa
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One of the problems I continually have is finding the parts in all the
packing. This time, it's the 6W6-11 aileron bellcrank supports.
Does anyone recall where these may have been packed in their kit? If I haven't
located them today, my inclination is to simply order a second set, since
they will soon delay my progress.
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Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue.
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Jim B. Belcher
BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science
A&P/IA
Instrument Rated Pilot
General Radio Telephone Certificate
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| Subject: | Re: Received my 650 plans!! |
Congratulations Mike, good luck with the build.
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Mine was in the box with the ribs.
Ron
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Zenith601-List: parts location
From: Jim Belcher <z601@anemicaardvark.com>
<z601@anemicaardvark.com>
One of the problems I continually have is finding the parts in all the
packing. This time, it's the 6W6-11 aileron bellcrank supports.
Does anyone recall where these may have been packed in their kit? If I
haven't
located them today, my inclination is to simply order a second set,
since
they will soon delay my progress.
--
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Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue.
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Jim B. Belcher
BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science
A&P/IA
Instrument Rated Pilot
General Radio Telephone Certificate
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| Subject: | Re: parts location |
they were wrapped in brown paper, loose in the shipping box ? both taped together
Chris
Do not archive
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| Subject: | WARNING Tom Henderson |
Hi
In Dec 2007 I purchased a partial 601XL kit From a man named Tom
Henderson McMinnville Or. At first he sent a few parts which were high
quality but then he quit sending any thing and wont answer E-Mails or return
calls It has now been 13 months So every one should steer clear of this man
because he will take your money and never deliver the parts
Don 601XL Nc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Lendon" <rlendon@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:04 PM
Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Yuba City Probable cause released
>
> I found it here:
>
> http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=LAX07FA026&rpt=fi
>
> and the most interesting thing is at the end.
>
> REASON FOR OCCURRENCE UNDETERMINED
>
> Let's try to keep that in mind.
>
> --------
> Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
> WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
> Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
> http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221871#221871
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>
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| Subject: | Re: WARNING Tom Henderson |
I hate hearing about anyone getting ripped off. Have you contacted the authorities?
If it crossed state lines it was a federal offense. If the mail was used
in any way the postal inspectors love this sort of thing.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: WARNING Tom Henderson |
check the archives there is a lot about this guy.
Jeff Garrett
Louisville Ky.
601XL N962T Aerolite Corvair 90%
601XL N524B Aerolite Corvair 155 Hrs
601XL N2257 Aerolite Corvair 225 Hrs
_www.aeroliteproducts.com_ (http://www.aeroliteproducts.com/)
_www.project601xl.com_ (http://www.project601xl.com/)
_www.aerolite.camstreams.com_ (http://www.aerolite.camstreams.com/)
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Martin Pohl wrote:
> I am not sure if the 600kg BRS-version would fit right behind the firewall?
I'm considering mounting a BRS-1350 between the firewall and the instrument panel
of my 601XL with 650 canopy.
Here's pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/BRS#
When using the 650 canopy on the XL, I believe that the usual baggage compartment
location is no longer possible due to the 650 canopy covering what previously
would have been the frangible cover installed in a cutout of top skin. It
may be possible to mount the BRS behind the baggage compartment bulkhead, but
that would move the CG further much aft.
The challenge with putting the BRS up front is that it will displace depth behind
the panel, which will limit what can be put in the panel on the passenger's
side. To partially mitigate this, I fabricated a pan that allows the BRS to
sit lower. I plan to "fine tune" my CG with appropriate placement of the battery.
I'm interested in what other people are doing, particularly those who are installing
BRS's on 650's or XL's with 650 canopies.
- Pat
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Patrick
601XL/Corvair
N63PZ (reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: parts location |
(Cant remember who posted, sorry)
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It is important to double check all the packing with your Kit,- before se
nd it to the garbage... I am shure you will find everything sooner or later
.
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In our city we have already built 4- CH 701 kits-and I am now about hal
f way building-a 601 XL- kit- and I can say with truth, that nothing
of this five kits parts were missing, not even a washer.- Just one or two
-parts did not had the paper label, but where easy to identify with the p
lans.
-
Just our personal experience, some other local builder of kits-for difere
nt airplanes, cant say the same.-
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Here in Mexico. like for all-other builder in countries around the world,
is very important, because the shipping and import taxes are expensive and
paperwork is HUGE.- No Custom Agent will accept that the missing shipped
parts (sent later) have already paid their share, to dificult to explain a
nd impossible proof.
-
Saludos
Gary Gower
Buiding in Guadalajara, Mexico
Flying in Chapala. Mexico.
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--- On Wed, 1/7/09, chris Sinfield <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
From: chris Sinfield <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: parts location
<chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
they were wrapped in brown paper, loose in the shipping box ? both taped
together
Chris
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Great for flying NORDO with only a compas OVER the instrument panel- -
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Saludos
Gary Gower
PLEASE Do not Archive.
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, PatrickW <pwhoyt@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: PatrickW <pwhoyt@yahoo.com>
Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: W&B 601XL
<pwhoyt@yahoo.com>
Martin Pohl wrote:
> I am not sure if the 600kg BRS-version would fit right behind the
firewall?
I'm considering mounting a BRS-1350 between the firewall and the instrument
panel of my 601XL with 650 canopy.
Here's pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/BRS#
When using the 650 canopy on the XL, I believe that the usual baggage
compartment location is no longer possible due to the 650 canopy covering w
hat
previously would have been the frangible cover installed in a cutout of top
skin. It may be possible to mount the BRS behind the baggage compartment
bulkhead, but that would move the CG further much aft.
The challenge with putting the BRS up front is that it will displace depth
behind the panel, which will limit what can be put in the panel on the
passenger's side. To partially mitigate this, I fabricated a pan that
allows the BRS to sit lower. I plan to "fine tune" my CG with
appropriate placement of the battery.
I'm interested in what other people are doing, particularly those who are
installing BRS's on 650's or XL's with 650 canopies.
- Pat
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Patrick
601XL/Corvair
N63PZ (reserved)
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What tire pressures are recommended for the standard Zenith issue Condor tires
?? Thanks
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