---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/07/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:43 AM - Re: W&B 601XL (Martin Pohl) 2. 05:17 AM - Re: Re: Re: W&B 601XL--Whoops (Iberplanes IGL) 3. 07:08 AM - Re: Canopy and Cold Weather (shipping) ? (skyridersbn) 4. 11:12 AM - Received my 650 plans!! (MikeinPE) 5. 11:42 AM - parts location (Jim Belcher) 6. 12:59 PM - Re: Received my 650 plans!! (aerobat) 7. 01:01 PM - Re: parts location () 8. 01:25 PM - Re: parts location (chris Sinfield) 9. 04:17 PM - WARNING Tom Henderson (ella) 10. 05:10 PM - Re: WARNING Tom Henderson (Gig Giacona) 11. 06:48 PM - Re: WARNING Tom Henderson (Afterfxllc@aol.com) 12. 07:30 PM - Re: W&B 601XL (PatrickW) 13. 09:03 PM - Re: Re: parts location (Gary Gower) 14. 09:11 PM - Re: Re: W&B 601XL (Gary Gower) 15. 09:39 PM - Tire Pressure (Thruster87) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:07 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: W&B 601XL From: "Martin Pohl" If anybody is interested in where the CZAW and european ULM versions have their BRS installed, have a look at the ULM-drawings (6-UL-5). I am not sure if the 600kg BRS-version would fit right behind the firewall? The ULM version only needs the lighter 450kg parachute. Martin -------- Martin Pohl Zodiac XL QBK 8645 Jona, Switzerland www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=223301#223301 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/zenair_ulm_supplement_22_pages_111.pdf ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:16 AM PST US From: "Iberplanes IGL" Subject: Re: RE: Zenith601-List: Re: W&B 601XL--Whoops yeah, but the most impressive was the French XL Clone. 2009/1/7 Terry Phillips > > I need to read further down. It was Hungary. > > Terry > > Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:21:39 -0700 >> To: zenith601-list@matronics.com >> From: Terry Phillips >> Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Re: W&B 601XL >> >> I believe it was Minnesota. See: >> >> >> http://brsparachutes.com/files/Documents/Press%20Releases/PR%20Saves%20212-213.pdf >> >> Terry >> >> >> At 04:04 PM 1/6/2009 -0700, you wrote: >> >>> It has already been tested and (as I recall) the pilot and passenger >>> walked >>> away. Picture attached. Was it Poland or the Czech Republic? >>> >>> -- Craig >>> >> >> >> Terry Phillips ZBAGer >> ttp44~at~rkymtn.net >> Corvallis MT >> 601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons >> are done; working on the wings >> http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/ >> > > > Terry Phillips ZBAGer > ttp44~at~rkymtn.net > Corvallis MT > 601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons > are done; working on the wings > http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/ > > -- Alberto Martin www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain ---------------------------------------------- Zodiac 601 XL Builder Serial: 6-7011 Tail Kit: Finished Wings: Not Started Fuselage: Ordered Engine: Jabiru 3300 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:45 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Canopy and Cold Weather (shipping) ? From: "skyridersbn" Hey Patrick. If you are worried about how well the canopy is packed and if it can handle the bouncing of the shipment, take a look at the picture I have attached. I just picked up my fuselage and canopy kit for my 650. I hauled it in a single axle trailer. As a former truck driver, I can assure you, my trailer bounces a ton more than any semi truck does. The crate is so well packaged, the canopy sits on a mountain of paper and is encased with more paper. If you are just now getting ready to order your canopy, it might be warmer weather before you see it. I converted my 601 to the 650 just after it came out at Oshkosh. I just NOW got my order. Hope you get yours faster than I got mine! -------- Larry Hursh (N650LM Reserved) CH601XL (Conversion to CH650) Starting fuselage will be Corvair Powered Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=223330#223330 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn1255_206.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:12:42 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Received my 650 plans!! From: "MikeinPE" Christmas present a little later than the 25th but I am ecstatic. Received the plans yesterday. Building will be at a fairly slow pace as I am regularly out of town. Now I feel much more a part of this list!! Mike Port Elizabeth South Africa Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=223375#223375 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:42:55 AM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Zenith601-List: parts location One of the problems I continually have is finding the parts in all the packing. This time, it's the 6W6-11 aileron bellcrank supports. Does anyone recall where these may have been packed in their kit? If I haven't located them today, my inclination is to simply order a second set, since they will soon delay my progress. -- ============================================= Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue. ================================================ Jim B. Belcher BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science A&P/IA Instrument Rated Pilot General Radio Telephone Certificate ================================================ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:23 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Received my 650 plans!! From: "aerobat" Congratulations Mike, good luck with the build. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=223394#223394 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:38 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: parts location Mine was in the box with the ribs. Ron -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Zenith601-List: parts location From: Jim Belcher One of the problems I continually have is finding the parts in all the packing. This time, it's the 6W6-11 aileron bellcrank supports. Does anyone recall where these may have been packed in their kit? If I haven't located them today, my inclination is to simply order a second set, since they will soon delay my progress. -- ============================================= Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue. ================================================ Jim B. Belcher BS, MS Physics, math, Computer Science A&P/IA Instrument Rated Pilot General Radio Telephone Certificate ================================================ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:25:16 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: parts location From: "chris Sinfield" they were wrapped in brown paper, loose in the shipping box ? both taped together Chris Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=223399#223399 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:04 PM PST US From: "ella" Subject: Zenith601-List: WARNING Tom Henderson Hi In Dec 2007 I purchased a partial 601XL kit From a man named Tom Henderson McMinnville Or. At first he sent a few parts which were high quality but then he quit sending any thing and wont answer E-Mails or return calls It has now been 13 months So every one should steer clear of this man because he will take your money and never deliver the parts Don 601XL Nc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Lendon" Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:04 PM Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Yuba City Probable cause released > > I found it here: > > http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=LAX07FA026&rpt=fi > > and the most interesting thing is at the end. > > REASON FOR OCCURRENCE UNDETERMINED > > Let's try to keep that in mind. > > -------- > Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI > WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing > Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) > http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221871#221871 > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:10:21 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: WARNING Tom Henderson From: "Gig Giacona" I hate hearing about anyone getting ripped off. Have you contacted the authorities? If it crossed state lines it was a federal offense. If the mail was used in any way the postal inspectors love this sort of thing. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=223461#223461 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:48:14 PM PST US From: Afterfxllc@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: WARNING Tom Henderson check the archives there is a lot about this guy. Jeff Garrett Louisville Ky. 601XL N962T Aerolite Corvair 90% 601XL N524B Aerolite Corvair 155 Hrs 601XL N2257 Aerolite Corvair 225 Hrs _www.aeroliteproducts.com_ (http://www.aeroliteproducts.com/) _www.project601xl.com_ (http://www.project601xl.com/) _www.aerolite.camstreams.com_ (http://www.aerolite.camstreams.com/) Do not archive **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:30:58 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: W&B 601XL From: "PatrickW" Martin Pohl wrote: > I am not sure if the 600kg BRS-version would fit right behind the firewall? I'm considering mounting a BRS-1350 between the firewall and the instrument panel of my 601XL with 650 canopy. Here's pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/BRS# When using the 650 canopy on the XL, I believe that the usual baggage compartment location is no longer possible due to the 650 canopy covering what previously would have been the frangible cover installed in a cutout of top skin. It may be possible to mount the BRS behind the baggage compartment bulkhead, but that would move the CG further much aft. The challenge with putting the BRS up front is that it will displace depth behind the panel, which will limit what can be put in the panel on the passenger's side. To partially mitigate this, I fabricated a pan that allows the BRS to sit lower. I plan to "fine tune" my CG with appropriate placement of the battery. I'm interested in what other people are doing, particularly those who are installing BRS's on 650's or XL's with 650 canopies. - Pat -------- Patrick 601XL/Corvair N63PZ (reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=223481#223481 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:03:32 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: parts location (Cant remember who posted, sorry) - It is important to double check all the packing with your Kit,- before se nd it to the garbage... I am shure you will find everything sooner or later .. - In our city we have already built 4- CH 701 kits-and I am now about hal f way building-a 601 XL- kit- and I can say with truth, that nothing of this five kits parts were missing, not even a washer.- Just one or two -parts did not had the paper label, but where easy to identify with the p lans. - Just our personal experience, some other local builder of kits-for difere nt airplanes, cant say the same.- - Here in Mexico. like for all-other builder in countries around the world, is very important, because the shipping and import taxes are expensive and paperwork is HUGE.- No Custom Agent will accept that the missing shipped parts (sent later) have already paid their share, to dificult to explain a nd impossible proof. - Saludos Gary Gower Buiding in Guadalajara, Mexico Flying in Chapala. Mexico. - - --- On Wed, 1/7/09, chris Sinfield wrote: From: chris Sinfield Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: parts location they were wrapped in brown paper, loose in the shipping box ? both taped together Chris =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:51 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: W&B 601XL Great for flying NORDO with only a compas OVER the instrument panel- - - - Saludos Gary Gower PLEASE Do not Archive. --- On Wed, 1/7/09, PatrickW wrote: From: PatrickW Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: W&B 601XL Martin Pohl wrote: > I am not sure if the 600kg BRS-version would fit right behind the firewall? I'm considering mounting a BRS-1350 between the firewall and the instrument panel of my 601XL with 650 canopy. Here's pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/BRS# When using the 650 canopy on the XL, I believe that the usual baggage compartment location is no longer possible due to the 650 canopy covering w hat previously would have been the frangible cover installed in a cutout of top skin. It may be possible to mount the BRS behind the baggage compartment bulkhead, but that would move the CG further much aft. The challenge with putting the BRS up front is that it will displace depth behind the panel, which will limit what can be put in the panel on the passenger's side. To partially mitigate this, I fabricated a pan that allows the BRS to sit lower. I plan to "fine tune" my CG with appropriate placement of the battery. I'm interested in what other people are doing, particularly those who are installing BRS's on 650's or XL's with 650 canopies. - Pat -------- Patrick 601XL/Corvair N63PZ (reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=223481#223481 =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:39:57 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Tire Pressure From: "Thruster87" What tire pressures are recommended for the standard Zenith issue Condor tires ?? 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