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1. 05:50 AM - 601 Builders... some advice please (Frank Derfler)
2. 06:45 AM - Re: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy (Gig Giacona)
3. 08:23 AM - Need help & consuling on Rivet puller (stepinwolf)
4. 08:30 AM - Re: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy (Sabrina)
5. 08:34 AM - Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
6. 08:39 AM - Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller (Paul Mulwitz)
7. 10:14 AM - Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller (Terry Turnquist)
8. 10:34 AM - N601JD First Flight (John Davis)
9. 10:47 AM - Re: N601JD First Flight (jaybannist@cs.com)
10. 10:47 AM - Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller (stepinwolf)
11. 10:52 AM - Re: N601JD First Flight (John Davis)
12. 11:11 AM - Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller (Walter Carey)
13. 11:22 AM - Re: Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller (Terry Turnquist)
14. 11:28 AM - Re: N601JD First Flight (Terry Phillips)
15. 11:54 AM - Re: N601JD First Flight (Jim Belcher)
16. 12:39 PM - Re: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy (PatrickW)
17. 03:16 PM - Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller (Graeme@cole)
18. 05:01 PM - Re: N601JD First Flight (leinad)
19. 05:07 PM - Re: Re: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy. BRS Comment (Gary Gower)
20. 05:40 PM - Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller (Ron Lendon)
21. 06:37 PM - Fw: Packing and moving a 601xl (Cndmovn)
22. 07:34 PM - Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller (Dirk Zahtilla)
23. 07:57 PM - Re: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy. BRS Comment (cookwithgas)
24. 09:45 PM - Corvair distributor hold down (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
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| Subject: | 601 Builders... some advice please |
A few days ago I posted a note asking for some insight into the gusset mods
for the 601XLs ailerons. I received several nice replies from various folks
including a detailed estimation of the work involved from George
Smith. (Thanks again, George)
I also received a nice note from Mathieu Heintz and he asked me to share it
as widely as possible. So, feel free to re-post.
In his note below, Mathieu is referring to the notification of the aileron
mod (gusset plates) described in this Service Letter from AMD at this link:
http://www.newplane.com/amd/../Service_Letters_Bulletines/NOTICE%20January%207%202009.pdf<http://www.newplane.com/Service_Letters_Bulletines/NOTICE%20January%207%202009.pdf>
Hi Frank ,
Notifications are not mandatory. If you see any deformation at the
ailerons, it is wise to install the supplementary gussets. The gussets
are very easy to install. They are sandwiched between the skin and
rib. Remove a few rivets, install the bracket, drill holes into the
bracket and rivet. The Zenith Aircraft demo aircraft which has more
than 1,500 hours does not have these brackets.
Hope this will help.
Regards
Mathieu Heintz
Zenair
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| Subject: | Re: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy |
I really hate to agree with Jeff but I'd say if the canopy was ejected I'd have
to think the odds are pretty high that it would hit the tail and do God only
knows what.
That said I too have thought about an ejectable canopy but it would only be used
if I Had a chute and was ejecting the canopy to bail out.
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Need help & consuling on Rivet puller |
When I first started looking for a rivet puller, I shied away from the gun that
was being offered by Zenith because I had heard from builders on this List, that
there was many instances of cracking in the casings. As a replacement I decided
to go with a gun that was being offered by ACS ( see pic below ) however
it is starting to look like this was not my best decision.
I had difficulty with the setup instructions ( Chinese instructions ) and for the
life of me I still have not been able to get the oil level correct. The instructions
state that the unit should be filled with oil up to the top of the frame,
without showing where exactly what they consider as being the top or the
exact filling level is.
My second mistake was purchasing two guns so as not to have to continually swap
out the two tips. As it stands, when I do get one of the (at)#$%&* things to
work, it won't pull more then a dozen or so rivets, before me being obliged to
open up the air cylinder and start fidgeting with the oil level again.
I am basically a neat person, and I can't live with the constant spewing of oil
out the front, or the back stem catcher, and ending up on my freshly made parts,
or my work table for that matter. I am now in the process of trying to look
for a replacement, but all the suppliers seem to have the same low cost gun.
The list of resellers I checked with is rather extensive and includes, but is
not limited to, The Yard, ATS, Browns, Cleavland, US Tools, all registered trademarks
etc, and a few more I will not mention.
My question to the List is this, is the rivet gun being sold by all of these suppliers
the same gun. I have looked as best as I can, and every last one is showing
what looks to be the exact same unit on their web-page, with the only difference
being the color or the pricing. The cases are identical, the same tips,
the same nose pieces, hell they even the same triggering mechanism, and the
only difference so far is prices, that are anywhere between 40$, to a 140$.
For those of you who have used any of the above guns, are you aware of any difference
in quality of these guns, or is it a " find the peanut under the shell
" type of situation for me to get a proper replacement that will work,
Thank's to all of you who will take the time to respond to my concerns.
Bob, the Scratch builder
Three Rivers,
Quebec.
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| Subject: | Re: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy |
Gig is correct.
I designed my canopy for loss of control/flying surface. I was more worried about
it hitting my head than the tail feathers. The only time it would be tried
with the canopy up would be combined with an engine failure. Having said that,
I hear that a few side hinge canopies have departed, all without tail feather
damage. With the new 180 day repack rule (was 120) and the Sky Catcher BRS
failure, I like my pair of backpack chutes even more.
Off to my first class in Quantum Physics!
P.S. Frank: the factory demo has flex hinges, how many flex hinges have failed:
0 Why mess with perfection.
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| Subject: | Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller |
Bob,
I have never used that type of gun but I have other guns and none require
filling with oil. If you drain all the oil they will more than likely work just
fine. I think the oil is just a few drops daily but I could be wrong about
your gun but odds are if it is getting oil everywhere it probably shouldn't be
in the gun. Try it and let us know what happened.
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Louisville Ky.
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I had difficulty with the setup instructions ( Chinese instructions ) and
for the life of me I still have not been able to get the oil level correct. The
instructions state that the unit should be filled with oil up to the top of
the frame, without showing where exactly what they consider as being the top
or the exact filling level is.
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| Subject: | Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller |
Hi Bob,
After completing (nearly?) my XL, I have accumulated a lot of rivet
puller experience. Fortunately, my first purchase of a powered
puller was guided by this list. I bought the Harbor Freight lower
priced air powered puller and eventually bought another one. These
cost around $25 each on sale and maybe $30 or $40 at regular price.
I have my Harbor Freight pullers equipped with a custom built nose
piece to form the Heintz style shop head. I didn't like the standard
shaped heads because I tended to set the rivets at a slight angle
rather than flush with the metal piece. The pieces I made are
similar in most dimensions to the regular ones but about 1/2 inch
flat on the front to make it easier to get them flush to the metal.
I have heard about pullers that have some sort of oil reservoir. The
Harbor Freight ones don't. You just put a few drops of oil in the
air hose intake each day.
I also have several hand powered pullers. They all work fine. I
tend to use either the powered or hand puller for A4 rivets but for
A5s the powered puller definitely gets used more often.
Good luck,
Paul
XL getting close
At 08:20 AM 1/12/2009, you wrote:
><robert.pelland@cgocable.ca>
>
>When I first started looking for a rivet puller, I shied away from
>the gun that was being offered by Zenith because I had heard from
>builders on this List, that there was many instances of cracking in
>the casings. As a replacement I decided to go with a gun that was
>being offered by ACS
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| Subject: | Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller |
Bob, most of the rivet pullers are actually pneumatic/hydraulic. To oil the unit,
you must remove the bottom cover and pull out the large piston with a pliers.
Then fill the puller w/ air tool oil through the piston stem opening just to
the top of the opening. This completes the hydraulics of the tool. Then grease
the walls of the tank and replace the plunger and cover. Thereafter a few drops
of oil into the air inlet before use each day will suffice. There is also
a measurement for the head to be adjusted using one of the tools provided. This
seems to be crucial to the operation. Hope this helps.
Terry Turnquist
601XL-Plans
St. Peters MO
Hi Bob,
After completing (nearly?) my XL, I have accumulated a lot of rivet
puller experience. Fortunately, my first purchase of a powered
puller was guided by this list. I bought the Harbor Freight lower
priced air powered puller and eventually bought another one. These
cost around $25 each on sale and maybe $30 or $40 at regular price.
I have my Harbor Freight pullers equipped with a custom built nose
piece to form the Heintz style shop head. I didn't like the standard
shaped heads because I tended to set the rivets at a slight angle
rather than flush with the metal piece. The pieces I made are
similar in most dimensions to the regular ones but about 1/2 inch
flat on the front to make it easier to get them flush to the metal.
I have heard about pullers that have some sort of oil reservoir. The
Harbor Freight ones don't. You just put a few drops of oil in the
air hose intake each day.
I also have several hand powered pullers. They all work fine. I
tend to use either the powered or hand puller for A4 rivets but for
A5s the powered puller definitely gets used more often.
Good luck,
Paul
XL getting close
At 08:20 AM 1/12/2009, you wrote:
>
>
>When I first started looking for a rivet puller, I shied away from
>the gun that was being offered by Zenith because I had heard from
>builders on this List, that there was many instances of cracking in
>the casings. As a replacement I decided to go with a gun that was
>being offered by ACS
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| Subject: | N601JD First Flight |
N601JD my 601XL with a Jabiru 3300 took to the air for the first time
last Friday at Avery County Airport (7A8) in Spruce Pine, NC. Its a
quickbuild kit that I started in April 07.
The obligatory Youtube video is at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIVt40B5dLc. Its short and a bit shaky so
be careful if you get motion sickness :-)
The flight went well with only a couple of minor squawks:
1. Need to add a stop to the throttle @ low RPMS to prevent the engine
from stopping when the throttle is pulled too far back to idle. The US
Jabiru guys recommend a small cable stop added to the throttle cable at
the carb to prevent this.
2. Aileron trim is wired backwards, Oops, didn't notice a real need for
the aileron trim though
3. Experiment with my Sensenich Ground adjustable prop and also
re-jetting the Bing carb to maximize performance. CHTs and EGTs looked
good though, perhaps I wont have to spend too much time messing with
cooling issues.
Woo hoo, now only 38 more hours till the end of Phase 1...
If only I had remembered to turn on my in cockpit video recorder, I'll
do that next time...once the darned weather clears up again.
Thanks to all the list members who helped with questions during the
build process.
Thanks,
John Davis
Burnsville, NC
N601JD - 601XL/Jab 3300
Now Flying!!!!
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| Subject: | Re: N601JD First Flight |
John,
A big Congratulations ! !? Beautiful airplane !
It must have been a calm day since you landed opposite to the way you took off,
right?
Jay in Dallas
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: John Davis <johnd@data-tech.com>
Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:29 pm
Subject: Zenith601-List: N601JD First Flight
?
N601JD my 601XL with a Jabiru 3300 took to the air for the first time
last Friday at Avery County Airport (7A8) in Spruce Pine, NC. Its a
quickbuild kit that I started in April 07.?
?
The obligatory Youtube video is at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIVt40B5dLc. Its short and a bit shaky so
be careful if you get motion sickness :-)?
?
The flight went well with only a couple of minor squawks:?
1. Need to add a stop to the throttle @ low RPMS to prevent the engine
from stopping when the throttle is pulled too far back to idle. The US
Jabiru guys recommend a small cable stop added to the throttle cable at
the carb to prevent this.?
2. Aileron trim is wired backwards, Oops, didn't notice a real need for
the aileron trim though?
3. Experiment with my Sensenich Ground adjustable prop and also
re-jetting the Bing carb to maximize performance. CHTs and EGTs looked
good though, perhaps I wont have to spend too much time messing with
cooling issues.?
?
Woo hoo, now only 38 more hours till the end of Phase 1...?
?
If only I had remembered to turn on my in cockpit video recorder, I'll
do that next time...once the darned weather clears up again.?
?
Thanks to all the list members who helped with questions during the
build process.?
?
Thanks,?
John Davis?
Burnsville, NC?
N601JD - 601XL/Jab 3300?
Now Flying!!!!?
?
?
?
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| Subject: | Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller |
Hi Fellows, I had not expected so much feedback, nor so soon, but I am glad to
hear of all your experiences.
I must first apologize for mis-speaking earlier when I stated that the gun was
purchased from ACS. I went through all my invoices, and found the Harbor Freight
invoice ID'ing the gun. It is the Central Pneumatic model # 93458, and the
exact same model however that ACS is offering.
As for the oil management, I have a very complete, ( and very expensive I must
ad ) set of more then a half dozen " Chicago Pacific ) air tools, and like most
of you responders, and few drops in the air intake, is more then enough to keep
them in excellent shape.
However I had never used any rivet gun before, and followed the instructions that
were given in the manual to the best of my knowledge, and hence the filling
of the tool. Check the pic of the instructions in the user manual below.
This evening I will pour out any remaining oil, and give both of them another try.
Bob the 701 & 750 Scratch
Terry, when I fill the piston stem opening to the top, no sooner that I re-insert
the diaphragm into the gun, the oil comes squirting out the air exhaust hole
in the front ( check rag ) of the canister or air cylinder.., and also out the
rear into the stem holder.
I will also give this another try.
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| Subject: | Re: N601JD First Flight |
Hi Jay,
Thanks, we have a bit of a slope on the runway and unless the winds are
bad will takeoff downhill and land uphill.
John
jaybannist@cs.com wrote:
> John,
>
> A big Congratulations ! ! Beautiful airplane !
>
> It must have been a calm day since you landed opposite to the way you
> took off, right?
>
> Jay in Dallas
> Do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Davis <johnd@data-tech.com>
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com; zenith601-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:29 pm
> Subject: Zenith601-List: N601JD First Flight
>
> <mailto:johnd@data-tech.com>>
>
> N601JD my 601XL with a Jabiru 3300 took to the air for the first time
> last Friday at Avery County Airport (7A8) in Spruce Pine, NC. Its a
> quickbuild kit that I started in April 07.
>
> The obligatory Youtube video is at
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIVt40B5dLc. Its short and a bit shaky
> so be careful if you get motion sickness :-)
>
> The flight went well with only a couple of minor squawks:
> 1. Need to add a stop to the throttle @ low RPMS to prevent the engine
> from stopping when the throttle is pulled too far back to idle. The US
> Jabiru guys recommend a small cable stop added to the throttle cable
> at the carb to prevent this.
> 2. Aileron trim is wired backwards, Oops, didn't notice a real need
> for the aileron trim though
> 3. Experiment with my Sensenich Ground adjustable prop and also
> re-jetting the Bing carb to maximize performance. CHTs and EGTs looked
> good though, perhaps I wont have to spend too much time messing with
> cooling issues.
>
> Woo hoo, now only 38 more hours till the end of Phase 1...
>
> If only I had remembered to turn on my in cockpit video recorder, I'll
> do that next time...once the darned weather clears up again.
>
> Thanks to all the list members who helped with questions during the
> build process.
>
> Thanks,
> John Davis
> Burnsville, NC
> N601JD - 601XL/Jab 3300
> Now Flying!!!!
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller |
Bob,
-
- I bought the rivet puller that Zenith sells and it hasn't given me a pr
oblem at all. Just a few drops of oil once in a while, with no oil splatter
/spray at all. Finished the wings and tail feathers, w/about 25% of fuselag
e complete. Walt in Dayton.
--- On Mon, 1/12/09, stepinwolf <robert.pelland@cgocable.ca> wrote:
From: stepinwolf <robert.pelland@cgocable.ca>
Subject: Zenith601-List: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller
<robert.pelland@cgocable.ca>
When I first started looking for a rivet puller, I shied away from the gun
that
was being offered by Zenith because I had heard from builders on this List,
that
there was many instances of cracking in the casings. As a replacement I dec
ided
to go with a gun that was being offered by ACS ( see pic below ) however it
is
starting to look like this was not my best decision.
I had difficulty with the setup instructions ( Chinese instructions ) and f
or
the life of me I still have not been able to get the oil level correct. The
instructions state that the unit should be filled with oil up to the top of
the
frame, without showing where exactly what they consider as being the top or
the
exact filling level is.
My second mistake was purchasing two guns so as not to have to continually
swap
out the two tips. As it stands, when I do get one of the (at)#$%&* things t
o
work, it won't pull more then a dozen or so rivets, before me being obliged
to open up the air cylinder and start fidgeting with the oil level again.
I am basically a neat person, and I can't live with the constant spewing of
oil out the front, or the back stem catcher, and ending up on my freshly ma
de
parts, or my work table for that matter. I am now in the process of trying
to
look for a replacement, but all the suppliers seem to have the same low cos
t
gun. The list of resellers I checked with is rather extensive and includes,
but
is not limited to, The Yard, ATS, Browns, Cleavland, US Tools, all register
ed
trademarks etc, and a few more I will not mention.
My question to the List is this, is the rivet gun being sold by all of thes
e
suppliers the same gun. I have looked as best as I can, and every last one
is
showing what looks to be the exact same unit on their web-page, with the on
ly
difference being the color or the pricing. The cases are identical, the sam
e
tips, the same nose pieces, hell they even the same triggering mechanism, a
nd
the only difference so far is prices, that are anywhere between 40$, to a 1
40$.
For those of you who have used any of the above guns, are you aware of any
difference in quality of these guns, or is it a " find the peanut under the
shell " type of situation for me to get a proper replacement that will
work,
Thank's to all of you who will take the time to respond to my concerns.
Bob, the Scratch builder
Three Rivers,
Quebec.
--------
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| Subject: | Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller |
It sounds like you may have an O ring problem in the top part of the puller. You
may want to disassemble it and take a look.
Do not archive
Hi Fellows, I had not expected so much feedback, nor so soon, but I am glad to
hear of all your experiences.
I must first apologize for mis-speaking earlier when I stated that the gun was
purchased from ACS. I went through all my invoices, and found the Harbor Freight
invoice ID'ing the gun. It is the Central Pneumatic model # 93458, and the
exact same model however that ACS is offering.
As for the oil management, I have a very complete, ( and very expensive I must
ad ) set of more then a half dozen " Chicago Pacific ) air tools, and like most
of you responders, and few drops in the air intake, is more then enough to keep
them in excellent shape.
However I had never used any rivet gun before, and followed the instructions that
were given in the manual to the best of my knowledge, and hence the filling
of the tool. Check the pic of the instructions in the user manual below.
This evening I will pour out any remaining oil, and give both of them another try.
Bob the 701 & 750 Scratch
Terry, when I fill the piston stem opening to the top, no sooner that I re-insert
the diaphragm into the gun, the oil comes squirting out the air exhaust hole
in the front ( check rag ) of the canister or air cylinder.., and also out the
rear into the stem holder.
I will also give this another try.
--------
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| Subject: | Re: N601JD First Flight |
Congratulations, John!
Enjoy your new airplane.
Terry
At 01:29 PM 1/12/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>N601JD my 601XL with a Jabiru 3300 took to the air for the first time last
>Friday at Avery County Airport (7A8) in Spruce Pine, NC. Its a quickbuild
>kit that I started in April 07.
Terry Phillips ZBAGer
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons
are done; working on the wings
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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| Subject: | Re: N601JD First Flight |
On Monday 12 January 2009 12:29, John Davis wrote:
>
> N601JD my 601XL with a Jabiru 3300 took to the air for the first time
> last Friday at Avery County Airport (7A8) in Spruce Pine, NC. Its a
> quickbuild kit that I started in April 07.
>
Congratulations!
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| Subject: | Re: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy |
Sabrina wrote:
> Sky Catcher BRS failure
Any details on how it failed? Did it not deploy? Or get snagged on something?
Thanks,
- Pat
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601XL/Corvair
N63PZ (reserved)
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| From: | "Graeme@cole" <graeme@coletoolcentre.com.au> |
| Subject: | Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller |
Once again this subject has come up again!
Most riviters are Air over Hydraulic.
Some are straight air
if you have an air over hydraulic riviter they use air tool oil in the
Hydraulic side.
You remove the bottom of the tool.
pull the air cylinder out, the shaft is actually the Hydraulic piston.
turn the tool upside down and fill the hydraulic cylinder (approx 1/2"
hole) to the top of the 1/2" hole.
Replace the piston.
don,t fill the air cylinder with oil
These instructions are for the air over hydraulic tool only.
If you gun has lost its stroke the oil level is down.
this usually happens after thousands of rivets
the gun will loose a tiny amount of oil each pull
if you haven't fulled thousands of rivets and the gun needs more oil
reguarly.
you probably have a damaged 0 ok X ring in the top of the Gun.
The Air only puller only requires a couple of drops where the air line
goes on.
The air over hydraulic gun also requires a couple of drops in the air
line for the air side.
Graemecns
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Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller
Bob,
I have never used that type of gun but I have other guns and none
require filling with oil. If you drain all the oil they will more than
likely work just fine. I think the oil is just a few drops daily but I
could be wrong about your gun but odds are if it is getting oil
everywhere it probably shouldn't be in the gun. Try it and let us know
what happened.
Jeff Garrett
Louisville Ky.
601XL N962T Aerolite Corvair 90%
601XL N524B Aerolite Corvair 155 Hrs
601XL N2257 Aerolite Corvair 85 Hrs
www.aeroliteproducts.com
www.project601xl.com
www.aerolite.camstreams.com
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I had difficulty with the setup instructions ( Chinese instructions
) and for the life of me I still have not been able to get the oil level
correct. The instructions state that the unit should be filled with oil
up to the top of the frame, without showing where exactly what they
consider as being the top or the exact filling level is.
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| Subject: | Re: N601JD First Flight |
Congratualtions John, and good luck with the flight testing.
Dan Dempsey
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| Subject: | Re: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy. BRS |
Comment
One importantthing about BRS or any other emergency chute (or any other man
made artifact)- is that they are not 100% reliable, too much- Murphy c
hances to fail.
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My point is that, they should be treated only as a "very-last chance" saf
ety possibility.--
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What I mean is that I have hear and read comments about pilots (most novice
or non flyers yet)- that think that they can get in "some" trouble-("M
ild Combat acrobatic manuvers" to give them a name) or take chances with al
most IFR weather, because they have a BRS.-
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Nothing more far from reality,- Experience (if they have the chance to ge
t some) will show them that a good pilot will avoid structural danger manuv
ers and bad weather as rattle snakes...
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Saludos
Gary Gower.
Of the Soap box.
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--- On Mon, 1/12/09, PatrickW <pwhoyt@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: PatrickW <pwhoyt@yahoo.com>
Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy
<pwhoyt@yahoo.com>
Sabrina wrote:
> Sky Catcher BRS failure
Any details on how it failed? Did it not deploy? Or get snagged on someth
ing?
Thanks,
- Pat
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601XL/Corvair
N63PZ (reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller |
I have one I found on ebay that has been working good for me. Search for: NEW
AIR POP RIVET GUN
The company is Great-Tools.
I modified the nose pieces myself, follow link below to learn how:
http://mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=rlendon&project=113&category=0&log=10097&row=674
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WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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| Subject: | Fwd: Packing and moving a 601xl |
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From: Cndmovn <cndmovn@gmail.com>
Subject: Packing and moving a 601xl
Here is a handy tip. If you have to move/store a 601xl they fit perfectly
into a 16ft POD storage unit. I hung my wings on the sides via the cargo
straps I used to pull the wing skin down. I tied the tail up in with the
eyelet in the unit at the rear and blocked the wheels to the floor. I also
used a cargo strap to pull the main wheel down to the floor at the front.
There was 2" to spare between the wheel and the door on the unit.
Cheers!
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| Subject: | Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller |
God you guys are something else. I have an original "Pop Rivet" brand hand
rivet tool I bought for about 4 bucks in about 1973 and after all those
years of misc. use I've built 2 planes with at least as many rivets as the
601 and will build my 601 with it as well.
Or maybe I can discuss all the ramifications of the ramistat ad infinitum...
Geez!
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| Subject: | Re: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy. BRS Comment |
Gary you are so right. I have a BRS installed in my 601XL and it terrifies me
to think that I would actually pull it! I mean there is a solid fuel rocket right
behind my head that is bigger than any hobby rocket I could imagine shooting
up in the air! Then there is the fact that it has not been tested in the
exact configuration the way I installed it. I do, however keep the safety pin
pulled when I fly.
Yes, Gary - right on. The very LAST resort. One other scary thing- when I was
sitting in my garage a long time ago just after installing the handle (no rocket)
I was imagining I was in trouble and trying to see what it would be like
to actually pull the handle, so I got myself all worked up and convinced that
I was going down and I reached down and gave it a yank and almost pulled my wrist
out of joint - I hadn't removed the pin! A simple mistake and my fictitious
save didn't happen!
Fly safe and have fun!
Scott Laughlin
601XL/Corvair
120 Hours
www.cooknwithgas.com
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| Subject: | Corvair distributor hold down |
I have had these distributor hold downs made and if anyone wants one please
send me a message off list and I will get your information.
They are made from 304 stainless and come with the self locking nut and
washer.
I myself check the distributor before every flight and don't like the wire
hold downs that Chevy used on the corvair so I had these made and as far as I
know they weren't copied from anyone because I would have bought one if they
were available. Auto Zone sells one for like $15.00 but this one is much
stronger and won't rust.
Here are some pics of it.
Jeff Garrett
Louisville Ky.
601XL N962T Aerolite Corvair 90%
601XL N524B Aerolite Corvair 155 Hrs
601XL N2257 Aerolite Corvair 85 Hrs
_www.aeroliteproducts.com_ (http://www.aeroliteproducts.com/)
_www.project601xl.com_ (http://www.project601xl.com/)
_www.aerolite.camstreams.com_ (http://www.aerolite.camstreams.com/)
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