Zenith601-List Digest Archive

Wed 02/11/09


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:37 AM - Re: Fuel selector location (David Downey)
     2. 04:04 AM - Re: Fuel selector location (Malcolm Hunt)
     3. 07:11 AM - Re: 610 gear removal tricks/tool (LarryMcFarland)
     4. 08:20 AM - Re: Fuel selector location (Larry Winger)
     5. 09:16 AM - Re: Fuel selector location (Gig Giacona)
     6. 10:09 AM - Re: Fuel selector location (Sabrina)
     7. 04:47 PM - News from Magnificent Machine (Brady)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:37:27 AM PST US
    From: David Downey <planecrazydld@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel selector location
    Larry, my biggest concern would be instability of the cockpit cavity in a c ollapse. The center console certainly provides some bracing to help offset the rather dismal performance of a "bathtub" when end loaded. David L. Downey Harleysville-(SE) PA, USA --- On Tue, 2/10/09, lwinger <larrywinger@gmail.com> wrote: From: lwinger <larrywinger@gmail.com> Subject: Zenith601-List: Fuel selector location I have dual sticks in my 601XL/650 and because I'm 6'6" , I'm considering d oing away with the center console.- The challenge is then placement of th e fuel selector.- Any ideas? -------- Larry Winger Tustin, CA Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair Control surfaces and wings complete Fuselage ready to rivet www.mykitlog.com/lwinger Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229676#229676 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 04:04:50 AM PST US
    From: "Malcolm Hunt" <malcolmhunt@mha1.fsbusiness.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Fuel selector location
    Hi Larry Is this possible? as the centre console will add stiffness to the cockpit and provide some lateral bracing to the bottom of the instrument panel? As I'm short ass of only 5'10" I will keep the centre console!!! Looking at the parts list for the Dual Stick Option (page 6-XN-24) this shows upright panels forward of the centre spar with two angles 6K2-4 which are not shown on my drawing 6-K-2 rev 03/03 or noted in any of the subsequent drawing revisions. Can anyone advise their size, length and material thickness? Many thanks in advance. Malcolm Hunt CH601XL Plans Builder in England ----- Original Message ----- From: "lwinger" <larrywinger@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:57 AM Subject: Zenith601-List: Fuel selector location > > > I have dual sticks in my 601XL/650 and because I'm 6'6" , I'm considering > doing away with the center console. The challenge is then placement of > the fuel selector. Any ideas? > > -------- > Larry Winger > Tustin, CA > Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair > Control surfaces and wings complete > Fuselage ready to rivet > www.mykitlog.com/lwinger > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229676#229676 > > >


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    Time: 07:11:21 AM PST US
    From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
    Subject: Re: 610 gear removal tricks/tool
    Greg, I made a wrench that holds onto the nut, but you have to put a dab of goop on the wrench to keep it from jiggling out during the process. Some have added a strip pre-drilled and tapped for this job, but once or twice having done this, it's not too bad. http://www.macsmachine.com/images/TJH/gearAW/full/gear-support-nut-holding-wr.gif Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com gregw wrote: > > I've bought a 601 HDS kit that's nearly finished so I have a lot less experience building than most of you. The previous owner assembled without painting any of the chro-moly parts so I'm dismantling them to do that. > > The 3/8" bolts that hold the landing gear to the wing have loose nuts inside the landing gear. As wellas being nearly impossible to get at the nuts are hidden by bungies. (I'm told later models have captured nuts.) > > How do hold the nuts to remove the landing gear? If there is a tool to do this could you please post a photo of it as I don't know where to start. > > Thanks, > > Greg. > > [Question] [Question] > > >


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    Time: 08:20:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel selector location
    From: Larry Winger <larrywinger@gmail.com>
    I appreciate the concern, but would tell everyone that the idea of leaving out the center console came from Roger at ZAC. He said if he was building a 650, he would leave it out to avoid the cramping effect of the center console. Apparently lateral stability is not his concern. Larry Winger On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:36 AM, David Downey <planecrazydld@yahoo.com>wrote: > Larry, my biggest concern would be instability of the cockpit cavity in > a collapse. The center console certainly provides some bracing to help > offset the rather dismal performance of a "bathtub" when end loaded. > > David L. Downey > Harleysville (SE) PA, USA > >


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    Time: 09:16:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel selector location
    From: "Gig Giacona" <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
    I'd have to agree. I'm working on my panel and the wiring now. With the panel attached with clecos to the two gussets on the side and the center support that runs from the panels to the firewall of the panel and neither the top or the sides connected to anything the bottom isn't moving much, if any at all. lwinger wrote: > I appreciate the concern, but would tell everyone that the idea of leaving out the center console came from Roger at ZAC. He said if he was building a 650, he would leave it out to avoid the cramping effect of the center console. Apparently lateral stability is not his concern. > > Larry Winger > > -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229768#229768


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    Time: 10:09:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel selector location
    From: "Sabrina" <chicago2paris@msn.com>
    The key is to keep the center spar webs from wanting to twist or bend. I tied the tops of my center spar to additional forward extruded longerons on the floor pan, and to additional z rails/longerons on the firewall (4 positions.) This was long before the LAA was calling for center spar reinforcement. Have Roger review the LAA call out and then get back to you and see if he changes his mind. Roger is the one who sold me on PH hinge ailerons rather than flex hinge. I wish I would have had better advice and stayed with CH's tested, original design. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229777#229777


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    Time: 04:47:30 PM PST US
    Subject: News from Magnificent Machine
    From: "Brady" <brady@magnificentmachine.com>
    For those who might be interested: We have made some updates to our website and added a few products to the "coming soon" section. Check them out at: http://www.magnificentmachine.com MagVair Forged Pistons: We now have pistons in all sizes in stock and ready to ship. This is the second run of pistons; we have tightened up the pin to piston tolerances a little. Due to an increase in manufacturing costs we are forced to increase the prices slightly. However we realize that some may have been waiting for these to return to stock before placing their order. As such, we will hold off the price increase for a week or so. MagVair Forged 4340 Rods: Our Rods have been on back order for some time now due to a container that was "set aside for inspection". The container has been released and I expect the rods here any day now. Those of you who have patiently been awaiting these will not be disappointed. MagVair Forged 4340 Crankshafts: The crankshaft project continues to move forward. We now have a 3" stroke crankshaft in a case with our rods, pistons and aluminum cylinders. This engine is very close to completion and I expect it to run within the next couple of weeks or so. We will then proceed with testing. We recently put a 3.25" crankshaft into a case with a cam and two rods. When we rotated the crankshaft we were looking for interference between the rods & the cam lobes. It was a quick and dirty test to see if it was going to be a big problem or a small problem. We did not see any interference with those two rods. We have not mocked up all of the cylinders yet so we may find some interference with the other rods. At this time it looks like there should be no problems. We will mock up the entire rotating assembly soon as time permits. Paying customers come first; R&D doesn't pay the bills. :-) Our next Engine project looks like it will have the 3.125" crankshaft and 92MM cylinders. This will net a 3165cc engine. Thank you, Brady McCormick Magnificent Machine LLC 17970 Thompson PL NE Poulsbo, WA 98370 1-866-606-4152 -------- Brady McCormick Poulsbo, WA www.magnificentmachine.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229880#229880




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