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     1. 03:34 AM - Wing locker questions. (K Dilks)
     2. 03:49 AM - Re: Wing locker questions. (Eric Tiethoff (HCCNet))
     3. 04:28 AM - Re: Wing locker questions. (Thruster87)
     4. 06:48 AM - Re: Wing locker questions. (hansriet)
     5. 07:48 AM - Re: Wing locker questions. (Gerald A. Applefeld VMD)
     6. 01:39 PM - Re: Re: Wing locker questions. (Dave Austin)
     7. 04:43 PM - Re: Wing locker questions. (Ianrat)
     8. 07:43 PM - Re: Re: Wing locker questions. (Ronald Steele)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Wing locker questions. | 
      
      
      Does any one know how many of the unexplained crashed XLs had wing lockers?
      
      Any ideas on what would happen if one was to open in flight? Not good for sure.
       Just finished my second locker and was wondering as the dzus fasteners are not
      very tight, no real "click" when doing them up.
      
      Just keeping busy building............. : :)
      
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      Austria .............
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wing locker questions. | 
      
      
      It's going to open during take-off and has the effect of spoilers. So 
      take -off speed is going up and stall speed is going up.
      
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      From: "K Dilks" <kevin.dilks@liwest.at>
      Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 12:33 PM
      Subject: Zenith601-List: Wing locker questions.
      
      >
      > Does any one know how many of the unexplained crashed XLs had wing 
      > lockers?
      >
      > Any ideas on what would happen if one was to open in flight? Not good for 
      > sure.
      > Just finished my second locker and was wondering as the dzus fasteners are 
      > not very tight, no real "click" when doing them up.
      >
      > Just keeping busy building............. : :)
      >
      > --------
      > Austria .............
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
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      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=242598#242598
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      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wing locker questions. | 
      
      
      If you are worried about the fasteners opening you can place a small O-ring under
      it [not under the head but under the lower surface /tail] to put a bit of compression
      loading and it also stops the fasteners falling out once undone. Cheers
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wing locker questions. | 
      
      
      Or buy the grommets that are made for this function. They are 6 cents a piece at
      ACS. ( GP5B BLACK THERMOPLASTIC HALF GROM. )
      
      By the way if you don't hear a click, you should check your installation
      
      Hans
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wing locker questions. | 
      
      
      List:
      I hate to admit this, but about 3 years ago I was in a hurry after doing 
      some maintenance and did not do a complete pre-flight as I had flown the 
      plane about an hour prior.  Well I had failed to close the right wing 
      locker on my 601HD.  As soon as I took off, the locker came open and the 
      right wing dropped.  I was able to control the flight with opposite 
      stick almost fully deflected.  Went around the pattern and landed 
      without incident.  SO it is controllable if one comes open but avoid 
      brown underwear stains and check your lockers before EACH flight.
      Jerry
      
      
      K Dilks wrote:
      
      >
      >Does any one know how many of the unexplained crashed XLs had wing lockers?
      >
      >Any ideas on what would happen if one was to open in flight? Not good for sure.
      > Just finished my second locker and was wondering as the dzus fasteners are not
      very tight, no real "click" when doing them up.
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wing locker questions. | 
      
      
      Wing locker check at pre-flight is absolutely imperative.  I know one pilot 
      who managed to get back down safely and one who was burned very badly when 
      he crash landed.  All the lift goes on that side.
      Dave Austin  601HDS - 912 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wing locker questions. | 
      
      
      I have changed my clips from the supplied ones to the quarter turn Cam Locks. These
      seem to have a better locking position. I have also increased the number
      that are shown on the plans. I have talked to some pilots that have use the standard
      number and they have said that the locker still lifts up a bit. He was
      using the washer under the fastener and it still looked like the locker wanted
      to lift up a little.
      
      Ianrat
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=242732#242732
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wing locker questions. | 
      
      
      A stiffener was added to to the wing locker cover for the 650 vs the  
      601.   (L angle, longitudinally between the fore/aft stiffeners,  
      roughly centered).
      This should help the cover hold its shape, but I think a couple more  
      fasteners couldn't hurt either.
      
      Ron
      
      
      On May 4, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Ianrat wrote:
      
      >
      > I have changed my clips from the supplied ones to the quarter turn  
      > Cam Locks. These seem to have a better locking position. I have also  
      > increased the number that are shown on the plans. I have talked to  
      > some pilots that have use the standard number and they have said  
      > that the locker still lifts up a bit. He was using the washer under  
      > the fastener and it still looked like the locker wanted to lift up a  
      > little.
      >
      > Ianrat
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=242732#242732
      >
      >
      
      
 
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