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1. 06:02 AM - Fuselage work sequence. (pavel569)
2. 06:23 AM - Re: Fuselage work sequence. (Paul Mulwitz)
3. 06:53 AM - Re: Fuselage work sequence. (jaybannist@cs.com)
4. 08:45 AM - Re: Fuselage work sequence. (Bill Naumuk)
5. 08:48 AM - Re: Fuselage work sequence. (Bryan Martin)
6. 09:56 AM - Riveting lower front longerons (pavel569)
7. 02:22 PM - Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale (Jay Maynard)
8. 02:51 PM - Re: [Probable Spam] Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale (LarryMcFarland)
9. 07:20 PM - Re: Fuselage work sequence. (pavel569)
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| Subject: | Fuselage work sequence. |
I'm about to start riveting forward part of fuselage together. But I'm still unsure
if to rivet everything,
that includes the side skins or leave at least one just clecoed to get easy access
for routing cables and brake lines later.
What is your experience? Is it still easy to do everything from inside or is it
better to do everything before riveting, or partially as I planned?
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Pavel
CA
Zodiac XL N581PL (Reserved)
Stratus Subaru EA-81
Tail, flaps, ailerons, wings done, fuselage is on the table ....
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage work sequence. |
Hi Pavel,
I found riveting the side skins and leaving off the top skins was a
good compromise. You can reach most things from the top of the
fuselage. On occasion I have had to drill out a few rivets, but that
is not particularly hard - especially after the first 50 or so . . .
Paul
XL grounded
At 06:01 AM 6/21/2009, you wrote:
>I'm about to start riveting forward part of fuselage together. But
>I'm still unsure if to rivet everything,
>that includes the side skins or leave at least one just clecoed to
>get easy access for routing cables and brake lines later.
>What is your experience? Is it still easy to do everything from
>inside or is it better to do everything before riveting, or
>partially as I planned?
>
>--------
>Pavel
>CA
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage work sequence. |
Pavel,
There are lots of things to do in that cabin area of the fuselage that are VERY
difficult to do with the side skins in place.? I would put off riveting the forward
side skins as long as possible.? I neglected to install the cotter pins
in the bolts holding the rudder cables to the pedals.? I nearly strained a gut
getting them installed later.? Try to think of everything that must be done
especially in that area forward of the instrument panel and below the upper longeron.?
Think brake line installation, bolts for the motor mount, rudder cables,
anything you want to bolt to the firewall. Get all that one before taking
the plunge to rivet those forward side skins. Pulling clecoes is so much easier
than drilling out rivets or turning yourself into a contortionist.
Jay Bannister
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From: pavel569 <pm569@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 21, 2009 8:01 am
Subject: Zenith601-List: Fuselage work sequence.
I'm about to start riveting forward part of fuselage together. But I'm still
unsure if to rivet everything,
that includes the side skins or leave at least one just clecoed to get easy
access for routing cables and brake lines later.
What is your experience? Is it still easy to do everything from inside or is it
better to do everything before riveting, or partially as I planned?
--------
Pavel
CA
Zodiac XL N581PL (Reserved)
Stratus Subaru EA-81
Tail, flaps, ailerons, wings done, fuselage is on the table ....
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249335#249335
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage work sequence. |
Pavel-
I second Jay's recommendation. I have to fight to keep from closing
up the front fuse sides, but I wind up thanking myself in the end every
time. It's very frustrating, because you're making progress with all the
wiring, cable, fuel, etc. connections but when someone comes over it
doesn't look like you've done anything since the last time they came
over. It's all psychological- you have to fight the temptation.
I haven't even put my project on the gear yet. I built my fuse in
Larry Mac's cradle which allows me to move it around my shop with one
finger. If I attach the wheels, I guarantee I'll be dinging everything
up bouncing into things all over the shop.
Bill
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From: jaybannist@cs.com
To: zenith601-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Fuselage work sequence.
Pavel,
There are lots of things to do in that cabin area of the fuselage that
are VERY difficult to do with the side skins in place. I would put off
riveting the forward side skins as long as possible. I neglected to
install the cotter pins in the bolts holding the rudder cables to the
pedals. I nearly strained a gut getting them installed later. Try to
think of everything that must be done especially in that area forward of
the instrument panel and below the upper longeron. Think brake line
installation, bolts for the motor mount, rudder cables, anything you
want to bolt to the firewall. Get all that one before taking the plunge
to rivet those forward side skins. Pulling clecoes is so much easier
than drilling out rivets or turning yourself into a contortionist.
Jay Bannister
-----Original Message-----
From: pavel569 <pm569@hotmail.com>
To: zenith601-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 21, 2009 8:01 am
Subject: Zenith601-List: Fuselage work sequence.
I'm about to start riveting forward part of fuselage together. But I'm
still
unsure if to rivet everything,
that includes the side skins or leave at least one just clecoed to get
easy
access for routing cables and brake lines later.
What is your experience? Is it still easy to do everything from inside
or is it
better to do everything before riveting, or partially as I planned?
--------
Pavel
CA
Zodiac XL N581PL (Reserved)
Stratus Subaru EA-81
Tail, flaps, ailerons, wings done, fuselage is on the table ....
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249335#249335
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage work sequence. |
Some builders have rigged up a way to easily flip the fuselage upside
down. One guy I know bolted a wooden frame to the engine mounts with a
pipe projecting from it to use as an axle. The pipe was supported by
an external stand while the tail was lifted up and rotated.
It's much easier to stand or sit under the inverted fuselage and reach
up into it to work than it is to climb in and stand on your head to
work on the upright fuselage.
On Jun 21, 2009, at 9:01 AM, pavel569 wrote:
>
> I'm about to start riveting forward part of fuselage together. But
> I'm still unsure if to rivet everything,
> that includes the side skins or leave at least one just clecoed to
> get easy access for routing cables and brake lines later.
> What is your experience? Is it still easy to do everything from
> inside or is it better to do everything before riveting, or
> partially as I planned?
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Riveting lower front longerons |
I want to rivet the lower front longerons 6B10-3 to the cabin floor 6B10-1. As
I understand the rivets should be pulled from the top because of the thickness
of materials so it will have a better grip in thicker longeron. Am I right?
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Pavel
CA
Zodiac XL N581PL (Reserved)
Stratus Subaru EA-81
Tail, flaps, ailerons, wings done, fuselage is on the table ....
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249359#249359
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| Subject: | Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale |
Check out the eBay listing at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160343673314 .
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, CFI-SP http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml
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| Subject: | Re: Tron Guy's Zodiac XLi for sale |
Jay Maynard wrote:
>
> Check out the eBay listing at
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160343673314 .
>
Aw Jay,
I gotta say the plane's nice and it'll probably sell, but I started to
laugh over the "Tron Suit" and nearly
broke my chair. Only thing you need is the cape, of course, for when
you've get the plane sold.
But I think I understand........ :-D
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage work sequence. |
Thanks everyone,
I'll keep the side skins just clecoed at place.
--------
Pavel
CA
Zodiac XL N581PL (Reserved)
Stratus Subaru EA-81
Tail, flaps, ailerons, wings done, fuselage is on the table ....
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249438#249438
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