Zenith601-List Digest Archive

Tue 08/11/09


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:55 AM - Re: Which Fuel Qty Gauges (Thruster87)
     2. 03:29 AM - Re: Re: Which Fuel Qty Gauges (Peter W Johnson)
     3. 05:58 AM - Re: Which Fuel Qty Gauges (chris Sinfield)
     4. 10:51 AM - elevator trim tab inspection plate (Lee Steensland)
     5. 11:18 AM - Re: elevator trim tab inspection plate (Garry Williams)
     6. 11:22 AM - Re: elevator trim tab inspection plate (Bill Pagan)
     7. 11:35 AM - Re: elevator trim tab inspection plate (Paul Mulwitz)
     8. 01:13 PM - Australia Findings / Filled Rivets / Wheel Pants (Joe)
     9. 02:43 PM - Re: Australia Findings / Filled Rivets / Wheel Pants (chris Sinfield)
    10. 03:51 PM - Re: Re: Australia Findings / Filled Rivets / Wheel Pants (Bill Pagan)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:55:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Which Fuel Qty Gauges
    From: "Thruster87" <alania@optusnet.com.au>
    vk3eka(at)bigpond.net.au wrote: > Alan, > > I ordered a set of VDO gauges from the states. They have to be the VW ones > (part no. in the photo guides) to be compatible with the senders. > > Would you believe they are smaller diameter than the standard 2.25" gauge. I > mounted them on the centre section away from the rest of the instruments. > > Cheers > > Peter > Wonthaggi Vic > http://zodiac.cpc-world.com > > Hi Could you post/email the part number of gauges Cheers > > > > -- Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257100#257100


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    Time: 03:29:35 AM PST US
    From: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: Re: Which Fuel Qty Gauges
    VDO Part No. 301-020. Page 12 of 12 Photo guide 6-K-1B -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thruster87 Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2009 7:53 PM Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Which Fuel Qty Gauges vk3eka(at)bigpond.net.au wrote: > Alan, > > I ordered a set of VDO gauges from the states. They have to be the VW ones > (part no. in the photo guides) to be compatible with the senders. > > Would you believe they are smaller diameter than the standard 2.25" gauge. I > mounted them on the centre section away from the rest of the instruments. > > Cheers > > Peter > Wonthaggi Vic > http://zodiac.cpc-world.com > > Hi Could you post/email the part number of gauges Cheers > > > > -- Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257100#257100


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    Time: 05:58:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Which Fuel Qty Gauges
    From: "chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
    I got mine from E guages.com in the States.. Get the VW ones.. Chris. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257114#257114


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    Time: 10:51:20 AM PST US
    From: Lee Steensland <zenith-list@steensland.net>
    Subject: elevator trim tab inspection plate
    Folks, Did you just rivet the plate on, or did you "upgrade" to nut plates? I worry about ever having to drill those rivets out incase something happens to the servo or if I want to CorrsionX in the inside of my tail. -- Lee Steensland 601XL/Corvair (7637L reserved) Kit/Scratch builder 10.0% complete!


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    Time: 11:18:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: elevator trim tab inspection plate
    From: Garry Williams <corvair.flier@gmail.com>
    Hey Lee, I have been thinking about the same thing. So I have decided to go with nut plates and machine screws. Not that I am opposed to rivets, but wanted to make it easier to access in case of an issue. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Lee Steensland <zenith-list@steensland.net>wrote: > zenith-list@steensland.net> > > Folks, > > Did you just rivet the plate on, or did you "upgrade" to nut plates? I > worry about ever having to drill those rivets out incase something happens > to the servo or if I want to CorrsionX in the inside of my tail. > > -- > Lee Steensland > 601XL/Corvair (7637L reserved) Kit/Scratch builder 10.0% complete! > > -- Garry Williams EAA - 1031 - http://corvair-flier.com/ Corvair Powered - 601XL Scratch Builder Edinburg, VA


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    Time: 11:22:14 AM PST US
    From: Bill Pagan <pdn8r@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: elevator trim tab inspection plate
    I'm using nutplates - just in case. Bill Pagan EAA Tech Counselor #4395 601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES) --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Lee Steensland <zenith-list@steensland.net> wrote: From: Lee Steensland <zenith-list@steensland.net> Subject: Zenith601-List: elevator trim tab inspection plate d.net> Folks, Did you just rivet the plate on, or did you "upgrade" to nut plates? I worr y about ever having to drill those rivets out incase something happens to t he servo or if I want to CorrsionX in the inside of my tail. -- Lee Steensland 601XL/Corvair (7637L reserved) Kit/Scratch builder 10.0% complete! le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 11:35:50 AM PST US
    From: Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net>
    Subject: Re: elevator trim tab inspection plate
    I riveted the plate in question, and many other places as well. I still used nutplates and screws in places which certainly need access for inspection such as the aileron bellcrank. Drilling out rivets is very easy if you do it properly. I start with a number 40 drill (the same one I start drilling rivet holes with) and drill the center of the rivet down just a little way. Then I use a number 30 followed by a number 20 if needed until the head of the rivet pops off. Some times this also removes the rest of the rivet and some times it takes a little work with a punch to remove the remaining parts. After doing this at least 200 times on my airplane I feel it is a straight forward and easy process to complete with no damage to the parts being held by the rivet. Paul XL waiting for engineering changes At 10:50 AM 8/11/2009, you wrote: >Folks, > >Did you just rivet the plate on, or did you "upgrade" to nut plates? >I worry about ever having to drill those rivets out incase something >happens to the servo or if I want to CorrsionX in the inside of my tail.


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    Time: 01:13:15 PM PST US
    From: "Joe" <backstagelive@gmail.com>
    Subject: Australia Findings / Filled Rivets / Wheel Pants
    I have 2 doccuments I received from a friend of mine who is an aircraft builder in Australia concerning the 601 XL that lost a canopy down there. One is "External Assistance to Recreational Aviation Australia - Collision with water 22 KM NNW Gold Coast Airport". This is dated June 2009. The other is "Recreational Aircraft Airworthiness Notice 070109-1" concerning a secondary canopy latch. Their version of a secondary latch is detailed with color pictures. It's way too much to print here. If anyone wants these 2 doccuments from down under please send an E-mail to backstagelive@gmail.com and I will send you a copy. On a lighter note, EAA was fantastic this year! The boys in the Zenith booth were great as usual answering questions. As always, I look all over the field for an airplane kit that I would really want to build. Once again, I couldn't find anything I liked better than my 601 XL! One of my friends that stay with me from Seattle just about lived at the Zenith booth for the entire week. He wants a 750! The builders dinner was great again as usual, but guys, you need to get a bigger place! One thing I saw that I really liked were the rivets on the wing of a EuroStar. It's one of those clones of a 601 XL and the wings look identical. They use the #5 rivets on the wing identical to what we use, but they fill each rivet with something that makes it look like a solid rivet. It's done strictly for looks and I like the way it looks! I don't know what they use, and the people in their booth didn't seem to know much about the airplane. It's built somewhere in Russia and they get the wings wings with the rivets filled. They did know that the squrt something in there with a syringe, but I don't know what they use. Bondo is too heavy. Does anyone know what they use? Does anyone have any pictures of how you put your wheel pants on a 601 XL? I have an idea, but I would like to see how other people did the job? Could you lead me to your website or E-mail me some pictures? Thanks. Joe in Oshkosh


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    Time: 02:43:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Australia Findings / Filled Rivets / Wheel Pants
    From: "chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
    The Aussie Canopy report is on only a piece of the accident report. It is not the accident report in total. The investigator was given a small piece of the canopy to look at, thats all. The full report is still to be released. As far as the canopy lock, after a number of loose canopies came open (normally the PAX side ) and the reported canopy open in flight stories we saw on the net, we came up with this secondary lock system. I just picked a few Ideas and gave pictures to the RAA as examples of what can be done. Since the secondary locks have been fitted no more open canopies. Chris. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257188#257188


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    Time: 03:51:56 PM PST US
    From: Bill Pagan <pdn8r@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Australia Findings / Filled Rivets / Wheel Pants
    Please post some pictures or a link to the pics of the secondary lock.- I think a lot of builders-would be interested. Bill Pagan EAA Tech Counselor #4395 601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES) --- On Tue, 8/11/09, chris Sinfield <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au> wrote: From: chris Sinfield <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au> Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Australia Findings / Filled Rivets / Wheel Pan ts o.com.au> The Aussie Canopy report is on only a piece of the accident report. It is n ot the accident report in total. The investigator was given a small piece o f the canopy to look at, thats all. The full report is still to be released . As far as the canopy lock, after a number of loose canopies came open (norm ally the PAX side ) and the reported canopy open in flight stories we saw o n the net, we came up with this secondary lock system. I just picked a few Ideas and gave- pictures- to the RAA as examples of what can be done. S ince the secondary locks have been fitted no more open canopies. Chris. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257188#257188 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A




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