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1. 12:12 AM - Re: 601XL Cowling (Craig Payne)
2. 12:22 AM - Re: 601XL Cowling (Peter W Johnson)
3. 03:46 AM - Re: uk 601 xl aircraft cleared for flight (Pete54)
4. 06:55 AM - Re: 601XL Cowling (NYTerminat@aol.com)
5. 09:02 AM - Re: uk 601 xl aircraft cleared for flight (Scotsman)
6. 12:09 PM - Re: Re: uk 601 xl aircraft cleared for flight (Craig Payne)
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I haven't used the grommets on mine but this is how I get the camloc studs
through the holes I drill. Compress the camloc and its spring with the
special camloc pliers. Then you should be able to "hook" the shaft with the
pin through the grommet. Try this document:
www.afscamloc.net/xua/downloads/Camloc%20Quick%20Release%20Fasteners.pdf
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W
Johnson
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 12:38 AM
Subject: Zenith601-List: 601XL Cowling
Hi Guys,
I received my camlocs for the cowling from ASSC the other day.
Attached is a photo. The photo shows:-
40S5-3S SS CAMLOC STUD
4002-NS CAMLOC GROMMET
214-16ND CAMLOC 4002 Receptacle
How do I get the stud into the grommet. Do I have to remove the pin? If so,
how?
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
<http://zodiac.cpc-world.com/> http://zodiac.cpc-world.com
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Craig,
Thanks for that.
A pair of needle nose pliers did the same thing. I was looking for a
complicated solution to what is a simple problem.
Thanks
Peter
From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Payne
Sent: Saturday, 29 August 2009 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: 601XL Cowling
I haven't used the grommets on mine but this is how I get the camloc studs
through the holes I drill. Compress the camloc and its spring with the
special camloc pliers. Then you should be able to "hook" the shaft with the
pin through the grommet. Try this document:
www.afscamloc.net/xua/downloads/Camloc%20Quick%20Release%20Fasteners.pdf
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W
Johnson
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 12:38 AM
Subject: Zenith601-List: 601XL Cowling
Hi Guys,
I received my camlocs for the cowling from ASSC the other day.
Attached is a photo. The photo shows:-
40S5-3S SS CAMLOC STUD
4002-NS CAMLOC GROMMET
214-16ND CAMLOC 4002 Receptacle
How do I get the stud into the grommet. Do I have to remove the pin? If so,
how?
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
<http://zodiac.cpc-world.com/> http://zodiac.cpc-world.com
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| Subject: | Re: uk 601 xl aircraft cleared for flight |
The beefed up parts I referred to are not those featured in the UK drawings (my
apologies to those who could not read them and my thanks to the chap who has
re-posted them.)
>From memory it is the rear wing spar attachment points, the centre section uprights
and the tailplane attachments where we have noticed differences - there
may be others - these were just the areas the chap was working on an wanted to
check my aircraft to get a feel for the final assembly. Then he started to measure
the parts mentioned as they were so obviously different. The official
reason he was given was these were changes due to the increase in mauw from 560
to 600kg.
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Pete Morris
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Cowling |
Peter,
There is a tool that is used to install these. Look in the catalogue that
you purchased them from. If I remember you can modify a pair of pliers to
match the tool.
Bob Spudis
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| Subject: | Re: uk 601 xl aircraft cleared for flight |
Hi Pete, do you know the thickness of the revised parts mentioned in your post
above as I wanted to check against my own kit? James
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| Subject: | Re: uk 601 xl aircraft cleared for flight |
"From memory it is the rear wing spar attachment points, the centre section
uprights and the tailplane attachments where we have noticed differences"
Some of these changes are not particularly new and some are related to the
650 changes.
The 4 large "L"s that tie the center spar to the outer skins of the fuselage
(6B13-1) are shown as 0.063 inches thick on my 08/05 plans. That was an
increase (form 0.040?) from my older plans. This change is listed in "ZODIAC
CH 601 XL Updates included in 3rd edition 1st revision: April 2005"
"6-B-13 02/05 WING JIG
1) 6B13-1 Rev. 1 change material thickness from t=.040 to t=.063 deleted
bend
radius = changed length from 470 to 480 (02/05)"
http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/xl-update-3rd-ed-1st-rev-4-05.pdf
The plate that attaches the rear spar to the fuselage (6B5-4) changed from
0.063 (08/05 plans) to 0.12. At OSH 2008 Patrick Hoyt (among others) noticed
the thicker plates on the 650 and asked Caleb about it (I was standing
there). Caleb said that to shift the plate on the 650 vertically (as
compared to the 601XL) to changes the wing's angle of incidence the height
of the plate had to be reduced. The increase in thickness was to give the
plate adequate strength in its attachment to the fuselage. Caleb said it had
nothing to do with strengthening the attachment between the rear spar and
the plate. Below is a picture Patrick shot:
http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/Zodiac650AtOshkosh#5243761730774797
442
This document states "Attach Plate Geometry and thickness changed to
accommodate change in wing incidence angle.":
"ZODIAC CH 650: Summary of changes from the Zodiac CH 601 XL (4th edition,
1/2008 drawings)"
http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/ch650/data/650-drawing-list-6x-0.pdf
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete54
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:46 AM
Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: uk 601 xl aircraft cleared for flight
<peter.morris@optimusaberdeen.com>
The beefed up parts I referred to are not those featured in the UK drawings
(my apologies to those who could not read them and my thanks to the chap who
has re-posted them.)
>From memory it is the rear wing spar attachment points, the centre section
uprights and the tailplane attachments where we have noticed differences -
there may be others - these were just the areas the chap was working on an
wanted to check my aircraft to get a feel for the final assembly. Then he
started to measure the parts mentioned as they were so obviously different.
The official reason he was given was these were changes due to the increase
in mauw from 560 to 600kg.
--------
Pete Morris
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=260338#260338
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