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1. 07:21 AM - Fw: 601XL/650 solid rivits required (Jim Belcher)
2. 07:22 AM - Re: Re: 601XL/650 solid rivits required (jaybannist@cs.com)
3. 07:22 AM - Re: 601XL/650 solid rivits required (JohnDRead@aol.com)
4. 06:23 PM - Re: 601XL/650 solid rivits required (Scott E Bevier)
5. 07:36 PM - Cabin fuel lines (chuck960)
6. 09:10 PM - Re: Cabin fuel lines (Bryan Martin)
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| Subject: | 601XL/650 solid rivits required |
John, I don't know this number, but if I wanted it, I would go here:
http://www.zenithair.com/kit/601/index.html
....which is a list of the parts for each of the major subassemblies. I'd make
a spreadsheet, and total the rivets. I'd guess that as a less than half hour
task.
Wicks, Aircraft Spruce, and just about any aircraft parts house you can think
of sell solid rivets. The pulled rivets, on the other hand, are available,
but less widely.
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Subject: Zenith601-List: 601XL/650 solid rivits required
From: John Brumpton <jbrumpt@activ8.net.au>
Can any one confirm the total number of solid rivits and sizes for a
601xl/650
Who can supply these
Regards
John Brumpton
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL/650 solid rivits required |
John,
In addition to the structural rivets Dan talks about, you are going to need a bunch
of the small, soft, flush head rivets for attaching plate nuts.? The ones
that ZAC supplied with the kit really weren't long enough, so I ordered a bunch
from either Wicks or Spruce.? They sell by the pound, not by units.? I think
I ordered 1/4 pound and got plenty.
Jay Bannister
John,
I'm not positive about this as I'm using solid rivets in many places where they
aren't called for on the plans, but I think for the most part the quantities
(for the solid rivets) are called out on the drawings. For instance on my
drawings for 6w3 (Wing Spar) the drawing says AN-470-AD-6-14 (RIVETS 142
Required). and AN-470-AD-5-9 (136 Required). There are 2 Spars so you have to
double those numbers. The carry-through calls for 68 AN-470-AD-5-9. Of course
you'd want to round up and have some to replace the ones you loose or mangle and
have to drill out etc. Make sure you get AD rivets, as those are the hard ones.
I know when I started my project one of the first things I did was to go through
all the drawings and put notes on them for numbers of rivets and to convert
metric to English units.
Hope this helps.
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL/650 solid rivits required |
Zenith has all the rivets you will need, just give them a call.
John Read
CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
Phone: 303-648-3261
Fax: 303-648-3262
Cell: 719-494-4567
In a message dated 9/17/2009 8:07:36 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
jbrumpt@activ8.net.au writes:
--> Zenith601-List message posted by: John Brumpton
<jbrumpt@activ8.net.au>
Can any one confirm the total number of solid rivits and sizes for a
601xl/650
Who can supply these
Regards
John Brumpton
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| Subject: | 601XL/650 solid rivits required |
John, and others
>From the 601XL parts database on the Zenith web site, Excel counted this
many.
3/32" BLIND RIVETS 68
1/8" BLIND RIVETS 4960
5/32" BLIND RIVETS 4340
You asked for confirmation on solid rivets. I would suggest you buy 1/2 lb.
of each size that's listed on the drawings.
Solid rivets are inexpensive. I buy most of my solid rivets from Genuine
Aircraft Hardware.
Zenith will sell you all the blind rivets you want. They claim to do QC
checks on the rivets they sell.
Regards,
Scott Bevier
601XL
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| Subject: | Cabin fuel lines |
I'm wondering what might be the best way to run fuel lines through the cabin. The
plans don't specify material but Zenith supplies rubber hose with the kit.
Would a solid material be better? Rubber should be ok as long as it is changed
for new every so often. Aluminum or steel can crack from vibration. Rubber cad
dry-rot and is easily cut.
I want an easy way to disconnect the fuel line at the side skin in order to remove
the wing. What about fittings? there are many types to choose from. How do
I get through the firewall? Does anyone know where I can get a good explanation
of all this?
Chuck Dean
Ch650 in progress.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263769#263769
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin fuel lines |
I used 3/8" OD 3003 aluminum tubing from the tanks to the fuel valves.
It's easy to remove the wings by just unscrewing the flare fittings
and sliding the tubing out through the grommets. There's no
significant vibration in this area, so it should last a long time. I
used the supplied rubber lines for the rest of the system because it
is relatively easy to access for replacement. At some point, I may
replace much of this with aluminum tubing also. The only place where
vibration is a concern is between the firewall and the engine.
Flexible hose is required here.
On Sep 18, 2009, at 10:36 PM, chuck960 wrote:
> >
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> I'm wondering what might be the best way to run fuel lines through
> the cabin. The plans don't specify material but Zenith supplies
> rubber hose with the kit. Would a solid material be better? Rubber
> should be ok as long as it is changed for new every so often.
> Aluminum or steel can crack from vibration. Rubber cad dry-rot and
> is easily cut.
> I want an easy way to disconnect the fuel line at the side skin in
> order to remove the wing. What about fittings? there are many types
> to choose from. How do I get through the firewall? Does anyone know
> where I can get a good explanation of all this?
> Chuck Dean
> Ch650 in progress.
>
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Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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