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1. 04:48 AM - Re: Parts that do not fit. (Alan and Brenda)
2. 05:03 AM - Re: Parts that do not fit. (Alan and Brenda)
3. 05:19 AM - Zodiac 601 Flutter Modifications UK (alsmith)
4. 05:22 AM - Mods in the UK (Frank Derfler)
5. 05:36 AM - Re: Mods in the UK (Carlos Sa)
6. 05:46 AM - Re: Mods in the UK (alsmith)
7. 06:02 AM - Re: Mods in the UK (jaybannist@cs.com)
8. 06:18 AM - Re: Mods in the UK (Malcolm Hunt)
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| Subject: | Re: Parts that do not fit. |
http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/engineering/engineering.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Mulwitz" <psm@att.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Parts that do not fit.
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> I found I was very unhappy with the pre-drilled holes from Zenith on
> just about all the parts. When ordering replacements I ordered them
> without the holes drilled. They were very happy to comply. I found
> it much easier to drill the holes myself.
>
> You might consider replacing some of the parts with scratch built
> ones. I don't know about your market, but I suspect you can get
> sheets of 6061-T6 where you are. It might not be very satisfying
> from a financial point of view, but I predict you will feel just fine
> about the accomplishment of building your own parts from
> scratch. You already have the advantage of seeing what "Nearly"
> correct parts look like and you have all the dimensions on your drawings.
>
> The spar carry-through is one of those places I would demand a
> correct part from Zenith. It is the heaviest load bearing part
> (along with the wing spars) on the plane. You may find you can bend
> it a little to match up with the rest of your plane.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Paul
> XL awaiting engineering changes
>
>
> At 03:52 PM 10/4/2009, you wrote:
>
>>I am building a CH650 in Australia and have found that my center
>>wing spar is the wrong angle (XL601) and that the front fuselage
>>side skins are also wrong (a mix of XL601 outer dimensions and CH650
>>pre drilled holes). As it will take some time for replacement parts
>>to arrive down under, I would be interested to hear from anyone that
>>is further along with the build (either CH650 or late XL601) that
>>may be able to advise of other parts that are not correct so that I
>>may have them all sent to me in one shipment. I believe that there
>>may be an issue with the seat bottom? and maybe the top skin?
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>
>>Greg
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| Subject: | Re: Parts that do not fit. |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Mulwitz" <psm@att.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Parts that do not fit.
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> I found I was very unhappy with the pre-drilled holes from Zenith on
> just about all the parts. When ordering replacements I ordered them
> without the holes drilled. They were very happy to comply. I found
> it much easier to drill the holes myself.
>
> You might consider replacing some of the parts with scratch built
> ones. I don't know about your market, but I suspect you can get
> sheets of 6061-T6 where you are. It might not be very satisfying
> from a financial point of view, but I predict you will feel just fine
> about the accomplishment of building your own parts from
> scratch. You already have the advantage of seeing what "Nearly"
> correct parts look like and you have all the dimensions on your drawings.
>
> The spar carry-through is one of those places I would demand a
> correct part from Zenith. It is the heaviest load bearing part
> (along with the wing spars) on the plane. You may find you can bend
> it a little to match up with the rest of your plane.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Paul
> XL awaiting engineering changes
>
>
> At 03:52 PM 10/4/2009, you wrote:
>
>>I am building a CH650 in Australia and have found that my center
>>wing spar is the wrong angle (XL601) and that the front fuselage
>>side skins are also wrong (a mix of XL601 outer dimensions and CH650
>>pre drilled holes). As it will take some time for replacement parts
>>to arrive down under, I would be interested to hear from anyone that
>>is further along with the build (either CH650 or late XL601) that
>>may be able to advise of other parts that are not correct so that I
>>may have them all sent to me in one shipment. I believe that there
>>may be an issue with the seat bottom? and maybe the top skin?
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>
>>Greg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Zodiac 601 Flutter Modifications UK |
Thought this link would be interesting to the community.
http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/engineering/engineering.html
Al Smith
KEOS Building a CH-650
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=266554#266554
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I was reading the UK mods with great interest. In the section describing
the brackets the text says:
"9. The additional stiffening angles are manufactured per figure 2. Note
that the stiffeners are handed."
Could I please admit total ignorance and get a translation from the
British? "Stiffners are handed." means what?
Frank Derfler, Islamorada, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Mods in the UK |
Here's a wild guess: they are different, left from right...?
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
2009/10/5 Frank Derfler <fderfler@gmail.com>
> I was reading the UK mods with great interest. In the section describing
> the brackets the text says:
>
> "9. The additional stiffening angles are manufactured per figure 2. Note
> that the stiffeners are handed."
>
> Could I please admit total ignorance and get a translation from the
> British? "Stiffners are handed." means what?
>
> Frank Derfler, Islamorada, FL
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mods in the UK |
I believe the angles are positioned to match from the front and rear mounting positions
on the Center Spar.
Al Smith
KEOS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=266560#266560
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| Subject: | Re: Mods in the UK |
Frank,
That's not a Brit thing.? I have used it many times myself.? It means that some
are made to go only on the left hand side and others on the right hand side;
thus they are "handed".
Jay Bannister.
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Derfler <fderfler@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:37 am
Subject: Zenith601-List: Mods in the UK
I was reading the UK mods with great interest.? In the section describing the brackets
the text says:?
"9. The additional stiffening angles are manufactured per figure 2. Note that the
stiffeners are handed."
Could I please admit?total ignorance and get a translation from the British?? "Stiffners
are handed."? means what???
Frank Derfler, Islamorada, FL
?
?
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| Subject: | Re: Mods in the UK |
Frank
The term handed is used on drawings in the UK and means that the
'handed' part is a mirror image to part as drawn.
Hope this helps.
Malcolm Hunt
CH601XL Plans Builder in England
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos Sa
To: zenith601-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Mods in the UK
Here's a wild guess: they are different, left from right...?
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
2009/10/5 Frank Derfler <fderfler@gmail.com>
I was reading the UK mods with great interest. In the section
describing the brackets the text says:
"9. The additional stiffening angles are manufactured per figure 2.
Note that the stiffeners are handed."
Could I please admit total ignorance and get a translation from the
British? "Stiffners are handed." means what?
Frank Derfler, Islamorada, FL
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