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     1. 02:48 PM - Parts for sale (LarryMcFarland)
     2. 05:57 PM - Airplane for sale? (mhubel)
     3. 06:17 PM - Re: Airplane for sale? (Paul Mulwitz)
     4. 08:11 PM - Re: Re: [Probable Spam] tail wheel conversion (JohnDRead@aol.com)
     5. 09:33 PM - All the videos for the mods so far are done (includes riveting the new spar) (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
     6. 09:52 PM - Re: Airplane for sale? (John Smith)
 
 
 
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      Hi guys,
      
      Ive been asked to post a page to support the sale of two sets of parts 
      donated to EAA Chapter 75 for two persons that have gone west.
      One was building an RV10 and the other had a controllable variable 
      pitch. propeller. Either can be a bargain for the person in need of them.
      
      More specific information is on a page at the following link.
      
      www.macsmachine.com/html/itemsforsale.htm 
      <http://www.macsmachine.com/html/itemsforsale.htm>
      
      Id not post these, but when people pass, we do what we can to help.
      
      Thank you for your understanding.
      
      Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
      
      Do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Airplane for sale? | 
      
      
      I have been watching the development of the "upgrade" package on the Zenith blog.
      At this point, it appears that this upgrade will approximately equal and may
      exceed the effort that went into building the plane from a quick build kit the
      first time.
      
      I had decided when I finished, it was the first and last time I would build an
      airplane. Now I have a unusable piece of sheet metal which requires that I build
      it again to make it fly.
      
      I know many have built from the basic kit and put in much more time and some have
      built from plans and put in an enormous amount of time. When I had started
      this, I looked at the quick build kit and decided it was the limit of the time
      I thought was reasonable for me to put into this. Even at that, the time spent
      significantly exceeded initial estimates.
      
      Anyone interested in a Jabiru 3300 engine with radios that happens to be attached
      to a large aluminum box?
      
      How many others feel this way?
      
      Mark Hubelbank
      Zenith CH601XL
      Jabiru 3300
      Sensenich ground adj prop
      Rotec TBI-40
      41 hours total time.
      photo.hubbles.com
      
      --------
      Mark Hubelbank
      N708HU
      CH601XL
      Jabiru 3300
      Rotec TBI 40 carb
      Sensenich ground adj prop.
      41 hr TAF
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274167#274167
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Airplane for sale? | 
      
      
      Hi Mark,
      
      I feel you are overrating the difficulty of installing the upgrade 
      kit.  It is a bit premature since the kit isn't even complete 
      yet.  AMD has said (I think) they will do the installation for 80 
      hours of labor.  Perhaps you would consider paying them to do it?
      
      In any case, I might be delighted to buy a Jabiru engine if it is 
      new, and the radios you have might be interesting.  What exactly do 
      you want to sell.  Where is it all located.
      
      I hope you decide to move forward, but if not perhaps there is a good 
      market for your stuff.
      
      Paul
      Camas, WA
      XL waiting to order upgrade kit
      
      
      At 05:56 PM 11/21/2009, you wrote:
      >
      >I have been watching the development of the "upgrade" package on the 
      >Zenith blog. At this point, it appears that this upgrade will 
      >approximately equal and may exceed the effort that went into 
      >building the plane from a quick build kit the first time.
      >
      >I had decided when I finished, it was the first and last time I 
      >would build an airplane. Now I have a unusable piece of sheet metal 
      >which requires that I build it again to make it fly.
      >
      >I know many have built from the basic kit and put in much more time 
      >and some have built from plans and put in an enormous amount of 
      >time. When I had started this, I looked at the quick build kit and 
      >decided it was the limit of the time I thought was reasonable for me 
      >to put into this. Even at that, the time spent significantly 
      >exceeded initial estimates.
      >
      >Anyone interested in a Jabiru 3300 engine with radios that happens 
      >to be attached to a large aluminum box?
      >
      >How many others feel this way?
      >
      >Mark Hubelbank
      >Zenith CH601XL
      >Jabiru 3300
      >Sensenich ground adj prop
      >Rotec TBI-40
      >41 hours total time.
      >photo.hubbles.com
      >
      >--------
      >Mark Hubelbank
      >N708HU
      >CH601XL
      >Jabiru 3300
      >Rotec TBI 40 carb
      >Sensenich ground adj prop.
      >41 hr TAF
      >
      >
      >Read this topic online here:
      >
      >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274167#274167
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: [Probable Spam] tail wheel conversion | 
      
      Hi Wade;
                  Are  you still interested in my CH601 HDS or have you found 
      another? Larry is a very  good source of information for the Zenith products. 
      do not archive.
      
      John  Read
      CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
      
      Phone: 303-648-3261
      Fax:  303-648-3262
      Cell: 719-494-4567  
      
      
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| Subject:  | All the videos for the mods so far are done (includes | 
      riveting the new spar)
      
      Zenithmod1-1-1  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKNZ0uy2VF4_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKNZ0uy2VF4) 
      Zenithmod1-2-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdcwWsMLF1s_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdcwWsMLF1s) 
      Zenithmod1-3-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BumV5n-40A_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BumV5n-40A) 
      Zenithmod1-4-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muqpgbb3QAM_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muqpgbb3QAM) 
      Zenithmod1-5-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3aXHf1mBI_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3aXHf1mBI) 
      Zenithmod1-6-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXXhWCNzWaE_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXXhWCNzWaE) 
      Zenithmod1-6-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM4JsPPpkaY_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM4JsPPpkaY) 
      Zenithmod1-6-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97dP7x1xtE_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97dP7x1xtE) 
      Zenithmod1-6-4   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qkgfmvPUo_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qkgfmvPUo) 
      Zenithmod1-6-5   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7qYtAnXa4_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7qYtAnXa4) 
      Zenithmod1-7-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpvXsrVs7Cs_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpvXsrVs7Cs) 
      Zenithmod1-7-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMOGWk4Ym0U_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMOGWk4Ym0U) 
      Zenithmod1-7-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fASbdRci-5E_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fASbdRci-5E) 
      Zenithmod1-8-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-ZPTR2NZ_M_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-ZPTR2NZ_M) 
      Zenithmod1-9-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lauvHAGbmDM_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lauvHAGbmDM) 
      Zenithmod1-10-1  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pp0fFfmsiQ_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pp0fFfmsiQ) 
      Zenithmod1-11-1  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMBNIRDNfRM_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMBNIRDNfRM) 
      Zenithmod1-11-2  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TskKi9Bz4_8_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TskKi9Bz4_8) 
      Zenithmod1-11-3  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCEul9CbjC0_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCEul9CbjC0) 
      Zenithmod2-1-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQB4kPwAJg_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQB4kPwAJg) 
      Zenithmod2-1-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92P-tvDWp8c_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92P-tvDWp8c) 
      Zenithmod2-1-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03xOiysJEsc_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03xOiysJEsc) 
      Zenithmod2-1-4   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5iH2Afwv5g_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5iH2Afwv5g) 
      Zenithmod2-2-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpfaXbvOvsw_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpfaXbvOvsw) 
      Zenithmod2-2-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWfrUSn8ZSo_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWfrUSn8ZSo) 
      Zenithmod2-2-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FEXUa4kMjQ_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FEXUa4kMjQ) 
      Zenithmod2-2-4   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLf0JJEbxv0_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLf0JJEbxv0) 
      Zenithmod2-2-5   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WUgURhCojk_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WUgURhCojk) 
      Zenithmod2-2-6   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKnaigeLZ4_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKnaigeLZ4) 
      Zenithmod2-2-7   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NgnNqPcjFk_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NgnNqPcjFk) 
      Zenithmod2-3-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2zx1aOo0Io_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2zx1aOo0Io) 
      Zenithmod2-3-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8_Z08hy1DU_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8_Z08hy1DU) 
      Zenithmod2-3-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9FlkVfUT08_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9FlkVfUT08) 
      Zenithmod2-4-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQPB0-XZhjQ_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQPB0-XZhjQ) 
      Zenithmod2-4-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvwGCU6LFAk_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvwGCU6LFAk) 
      Zenithmod2-4-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0xhgS2NoNw_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0xhgS2NoNw) 
      Zenithmod2-4-4   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z2TXeFQy20_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z2TXeFQy20) 
      Zenithmod2-4-5   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cRLaEkoYfM_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cRLaEkoYfM) 
      Zenithmod2-5-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnHxBCvmwXA_ (http://
      www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnHxBCvmwXA) 
      Zenithmod2-5-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GadfGcGZ4ZI_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GadfGcGZ4ZI) 
      Zenithmod2-5-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28p5mYU9_HI_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28p5mYU9_HI) 
      Zenithmod2-5-4   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f84iBIcAcxI_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f84iBIcAcxI) 
      Zenithmod2-5-5   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qCc5JQxBU0_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qCc5JQxBU0) 
      Zenithmod2-5-6   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNxxa8rXsqU_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNxxa8rXsqU) 
      Zenithmod2-5-7   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve9bGDUHJhU_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve9bGDUHJhU) 
      Zenithmod2-5-8   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?vZg49HkHVg_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?vZg49HkHVg) 
      Zenithmod2-5-9   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8DPUwC1gWA_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8DPUwC1gWA) 
      Zenithmod2-5-10  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOWNRhObYyA_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOWNRhObYyA) 
      Zenithmod2-5-11  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA0WhPCRWcw_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA0WhPCRWcw) 
      Zenithmod3-1-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpaGkQ3-dYs_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpaGkQ3-dYs) 
      Zenithmod3-1-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Xd4MLK40w_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Xd4MLK40w) 
      Zenithmod3-1-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk_Ilesu2pY_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk_Ilesu2pY) 
      Zenithmod3-2-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saJsGRflGGs_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saJsGRflGGs) 
      Zenithmod3-2-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSu690CW8-E_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSu690CW8-E) 
      Zenithmod3-3-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONUnxyckrVE_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONUnxyckrVE) 
      Zenithmod3-3-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AhCbuEF1Hs_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AhCbuEF1Hs) 
      Zenithmod3-4-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pSZ0zOsxDA_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pSZ0zOsxDA) 
      Zenithmod3-5-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZlcnh4quxI_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZlcnh4quxI) 
      Zenithmod3-5-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbDopP3GIF0_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbDopP3GIF0) 
      Zenithmod3-6-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcG-5b-jkj8_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcG-5b-jkj8) 
      Zenithmod3-6-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQt9pDViQKE_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQt9pDViQKE) 
      Zenithmod3-7-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6QVYF_7Yc_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6QVYF_7Yc) 
      Zenithmod3-8-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXuFbrLsorc_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXuFbrLsorc) 
      Zenithmod3-9-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtKMS-LAWWA_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtKMS-LAWWA) 
      Zenithmod3-10-1  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rxmbT7khLU_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rxmbT7khLU) 
      Zenithmod3-10-2  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHIr6bYG148_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHIr6bYG148) 
      Zenithmod3-11-1  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUOo2JqyaU0_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUOo2JqyaU0) 
      Zenithmod4-1-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr7b-bxQb0I_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr7b-bxQb0I) 
      Zenithmod4-1-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRMgV06sZ24_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRMgV06sZ24) 
      Zenithmod4-1-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN69khobb0o_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN69khobb0o) 
      Zenithmod4-2-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yblUT9kcQ0g_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yblUT9kcQ0g) 
      Zenithmod4-3-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqRCLCk0u9g_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqRCLCk0u9g) 
      Zenithmod4-3-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWcQtGQ7mRA_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWcQtGQ7mRA) 
      Zenithmod4-3-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kyYVC_Snx0_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kyYVC_Snx0) 
      Zenithmod4-4-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU0ghgzYscA_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU0ghgzYscA) 
      Zenithmod4-4-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgnVKNHsrTQ_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgnVKNHsrTQ) 
      Zenithmod4-5-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXHgqy9yRFg_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXHgqy9yRFg) 
      Zenithmod4-6-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5PkpIpkZyY_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5PkpIpkZyY) 
      Zenithmod4-6-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9raX-Ec8IA_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9raX-Ec8IA) 
      Zenithmod4-6-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHfmO7ab2tQ_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHfmO7ab2tQ) 
      Zenithmod4-6-4   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seGurcF0fr8_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seGurcF0fr8) 
      Zenithmod4-6-5   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkn7x3VjcZY_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkn7x3VjcZY) 
      Zenithmod4-6-6   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhm8e7P-XCw_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhm8e7P-XCw) 
      Zenithmod4-6-7   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fANP25LIJiU_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fANP25LIJiU) 
      Zenithmod4-7-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAl04Ws916k_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAl04Ws916k) 
      Zenithmod4-7-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_vsK2RVkic_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_vsK2RVkic) 
      Zenithmod4-7-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwTDIEqFLj8_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwTDIEqFLj8) 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re:  Airplane for sale? | 
      
      I feel the same way!- After I pulled the last rivet I told myself I was d
      one building airplane for the first and last time and popped a bottle to ce
      lebrate.- Now Zenith wants me to undo what I have done to get to and-fi
      x the parts they built and they call it "upgrade".- I get a cold chill th
      rough my spine every time I think about what needs to be done to make my pl
      ane airworthy.=0AOne thing I learned after building my airplane is that I c
      onsistently underestimate the time it takes to complete a task and also not
       to believe the Zenith's estimated time required to build.=0A=0A=0A      
      
 
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