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1. 04:42 AM - Re: Re: Upgrade kit (Karl Polifka)
2. 06:11 AM - Re: Painting Rivets (John Bolding)
3. 12:55 PM - Re: Painting Rivets ()
4. 06:44 PM - Re: Painting Rivets (Ron Lendon)
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Sabrina,
Should you want to pursue the (cold!) open cockpit, we have an extra canopy
and assembly parts we will sell.
A very small percentage of XL have crashed. A very small percentage of XL
owners make statements, or take actions, that suggest unwise
maintenance/operating practices. I do not think there is anything wrong
with the XL as is -- if it is flown in the manner for which it was designed.
We, of course, are doing the upgrade because someday we will want to sell
what we have. This is not mid-winter fun.
Karl
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From: "Sabrina" <chicago2paris@msn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:30 PM
Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Upgrade kit
>
> I would be great if Zenith or AMD put out extensive videos of their test
> flights like RV and published Dynon G meter logs on their upgraded
> aircraft... Are they testing to +6/-4? +4/-2?
>
> I fear more harm than good will come from opening her up. I am told that
> the only common maintenance thread in every crash is that the wings were
> removed at least once after being fully torqued in place. My aircraft
> has had the wings torqued in place just once, and I plan on keeping it
> that way for now.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=282289#282289
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Painting Rivets |
Another bad thing that happens when you blast thin aluminum with any
media is heat generation, most of the time when you blast in an area
long enough to remove the paint you've generated enough heat to warp the
panel. That's why the folks that soda blast aircraft also use water
injection to keep the panel cool. You can screw up a wing in a
heartbeat. Seen it done.
LO&SLO
John
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From: Craig Payne
To: zenith601-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:30 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Painting Rivets
Uh, what aluminum coating? Isn't 6061-T6 is the same alloy all the way
through. This is different than the Alclad sheet use in Vans kits.
-- Craig
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Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Painting Rivets
EEEEAAAAGGGHH!!! No, no, nooooooo Oh, the humanity!........If you're
gonna blast anything, use either walnut shells or plastic media. Glass
beads are silicon, which is just a refined type of sand. Which, as we
all know, will eat clean through the aluminum coating. The aviation
department of Harbor Freight carries walnut shells.
Paul R.
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From: Graeme@cole
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Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Painting Rivets
=EF=BB
you may be able to spot blast the area. you would need a rivet
fitted or the media would go through hole into wing
I don't know what blast media you would use probably Glass beads?
Just a suggestion
Graemecns
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Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:27 AM
Subject: Zenith601-List: Painting Rivets
List,
Has anyone devised an easy way to sand the paint around the
drilled out rivets. Also will it be better to paint just around the
rivets and try to blend the paint or sand the whole part and paint
again??
If primer is used around the sanded area it will take more coats
of paint to cover and hide the color.
Any ideas?
Bobby
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| Subject: | Re: Painting Rivets |
OK, generic term. Let me rephrase. Silica media will eat aluminum
faster than a teenager on a bag of Fritos. Walnut shells, plastic media,
or the equivalent are what's happenin'.
Paul R.
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From: Craig Payne<mailto:craig@craigandjean.com>
To: zenith601-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith601-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:30 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Painting Rivets
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Uh, what aluminum coating? Isn't 6061-T6 is the same alloy all the way
through. This is different than the Alclad sheet use in Vans kits.
-- Craig
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Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Painting Rivets
EEEEAAAAGGGHH!!! No, no, nooooooo Oh, the humanity!........If you're
gonna blast anything, use either walnut shells or plastic media. Glass
beads are silicon, which is just a refined type of sand. Which, as we
all know, will eat clean through the aluminum coating. The aviation
department of Harbor Freight carries walnut shells.
Paul R.
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zenith601-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith601-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Painting Rivets
=EF=BB
you may be able to spot blast the area. you would need a rivet
fitted or the media would go through hole into wing
I don't know what blast media you would use probably Glass beads?
Just a suggestion
Graemecns
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Subject: Zenith601-List: Painting Rivets
List,
Has anyone devised an easy way to sand the paint around the
drilled out rivets. Also will it be better to paint just around the
rivets and try to blend the paint or sand the whole part and paint
again??
If primer is used around the sanded area it will take more coats
of paint to cover and hide the color.
Any ideas?
Bobby
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| Subject: | Re: Painting Rivets |
[quote="BobbyPaulk(at)comcast.net"]List,
Has anyone devised an easy way to sand the paint around the drilled out rivets.
Also will it be better to paint just around the rivets and try to blend the paint
or sand the whole part and paint again??
If primer is used around the sanded area it will take more coats of paint to cover
and hide the color.
Any ideas?
Bobby
> [b]
I would recommend taping off the area you want to remove the paint, (think straight
line) and dissolve the paint with a thinner soaked rag. Remove the tape
and feather sand the edge of the softened paint. Repaint the bare area and blend
it in to the old paint. An air brush might allow the best control of where
the paint is placed.
YMMV
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Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
Corvair Engine Prints:
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