Zenith601-List Digest Archive

Fri 01/22/10


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:35 AM - Log book entry (Bob Gibfried)
     2. 06:44 AM - Re: Re: Upgrade Kit Rivet Removal (clmelenyzeriv@cs.com)
     3. 06:54 AM - Re: Upgrade kit (DaveG601XL)
     4. 06:57 AM - Re: Zenith601-list: Log book entry (Jim Belcher)
     5. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: Upgrade Kit Rivet Removal (afterfxllc@aol.com)
     6. 07:55 AM - (no subject) (afterfxllc@aol.com)
     7. 07:55 AM - New Piper Light Sport (afterfxllc@aol.com)
     8. 09:00 AM - Re: Zenith601-list: Log book entry (DaveG601XL)
     9. 09:51 AM - Re: Re: Zenith601-list: Log book entry (Jim Belcher)
    10. 02:00 PM - Re: Log book entry (Bryan Martin)
    11. 04:56 PM - Re: Upgrade Kit Rivet Removal (601RX)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:35:35 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Gibfried" <rfg842@cox.net>
    Subject: Log book entry
    Can anyone help? I downloaded a sample logbook entry for an annual inspection. Short and complete but can't find it now or the original source. Anyone have a copy? Bob, Wichita


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    Time: 06:44:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Upgrade Kit Rivet Removal
    From: clmelenyzeriv@cs.com
    Mark, The chain breaker acts much like a C clamp by holding both surfaces togeth er. I found no need to drill more deeply than it takes to remove the fact ory head. C. L. -----Original Message----- From: mhubel <mhubel@nemon.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:24 pm Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Upgrade Kit Rivet Removal The chain breaker may work but one needs to relief the pressure of the riv et. I drilled the -6 rivets out with a #20 (1/8 inch) drill almost all the way through. I found that one has to at least have the drill tip go up to the "shop head". I then used a 1/8 punch with a 2X air hammer set at a low pressure. The few times the shop head came off, I was able to drive the whole remain ing rivet body out with a 3/16 punch. Keeping all the pieces tight while doing this also helps and reduces the strain on any one piece of metal. -------- Mark Hubelbank N708HU CH601XL Jabiru 3300 Rotec TBI 40 carb Sensenich ground adj prop. 41 hr TAF Pictures at photo.hubbles.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=282782#282782 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== ===========


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    Time: 06:54:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Upgrade kit
    From: "DaveG601XL" <david.m.gallagher@ge.com>
    Sabrina, Strain gages usually require input current in the milliamp range and output millivolts so I am not sure a Dynon is the best excitation source and data recording system. Of course, a portable dynamic (AC) data system like EDAS would be better than a DC system any day. It is what we use at the big jet motor factory. I have not researched it and you probably have so I would be interested in your set-up. I would also be interested in what spots you choose for the gages. http://www.edasinc.com/index.php Good luck, -------- David Gallagher 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 First flight 7/24/08 116.5 hours and holding (incorporating upgrade) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=282877#282877


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    Time: 06:57:55 AM PST US
    From: Jim Belcher <z601c@anemicaardvark.com>
    Subject: Re: Zenith601-list: Log book entry
    On Friday 22 January 2010 08:24:38 you wrote: > > Can anyone help? > > I downloaded a sample logbook entry for an annual inspection. Short and > complete but can't find it now or the original source. > > Anyone have a copy? > > Bob, Wichita No, but I can give you the entry I make when I do an annual: "This aircraft has been inspected in accordance with the requirements for an annual inspection, and has been found to be in an airworthy condition. (signature) (printed name) (certificate number)" This, or some variant thereof, is what I've seen over, and over. Remember, they have a much harder time hanging you for words you don't put in a logbook. It's the words you put it that can get you. Short and sweet is usually good. ======================================= Jim B. Belcher BS,MS Physics A&P/IA General Radio Telephone Certificate Instrument Rated Pilot Retired Aerospace Technical Manager 601XL Builder =======================================


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    Time: 07:02:04 AM PST US
    From: afterfxllc@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Upgrade Kit Rivet Removal
    Bill, Make sure you clamp the spar cap together as you try and remove the rivets. If not the caps will separate and lock the rivet as you try and remove it. Jeff


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    Time: 07:55:17 AM PST US
    From: afterfxllc@aol.com
    Subject: (no subject)
    _http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/PiperUnveilsPiperSportLSA_201878-1.htm l_ (http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/PiperUnveilsPiperSportLSA_201878-1.html) This uses the same cabin parts as the 601/650. And I think the same spar. Zenith should try and stop the sale's of this plane unless they have been paid for the use of the design.


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    Time: 07:55:30 AM PST US
    From: afterfxllc@aol.com
    Subject: New Piper Light Sport
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    Time: 09:00:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Zenith601-list: Log book entry
    From: "DaveG601XL" <david.m.gallagher@ge.com>
    Are you talking certified or experimental? We do not do "annuals" on experimental airplanes, we do "condition inspections." If experimental, your operating limitations will give you the exact verbiage to use. Mine tells me to write "I certify that this aircraft has been inspected on (insert date) in accordance with the scope and detail of appendix "D" to FAR Part 43 and found to be in condition for safe operation." Hope this helps, -------- David Gallagher 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 First flight 7/24/08 116.5 hours and holding (incorporating upgrade) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=282897#282897


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    Time: 09:51:55 AM PST US
    From: Jim Belcher <z601c@anemicaardvark.com>
    Subject: Re: Zenith601-list: Log book entry
    On Friday 22 January 2010 10:58:41 you wrote: > <david.m.gallagher@ge.com> > > Are you talking certified or experimental? We do not do "annuals" on > experimental airplanes, we do "condition inspections." If experimental, > your operating limitations will give you the exact verbiage to use. Mine > tells me to write "I certify that this aircraft has been inspected on > (insert date) in accordance with the scope and detail of appendix "D" to > FAR Part 43 and found to be in condition for safe operation." Technically, you are correct. Change the word "annual" to "condition" in my blurb, or use the words you propose. If the FAA has approved documentation for any aircraft, it normally supersedes all other documentation. The appendix you cite is also the one normally used when doing an annual on an aircraft for which no type certificate exists. -- ======================================= Jim B. Belcher BS,MS Physics A&P/IA General Radio Telephone Certificate Instrument Rated Pilot Retired Aerospace Technical Manager 601XL Builder =======================================


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    Time: 02:00:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Log book entry
    From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
    I assume you mean the annual condition inspection logbook entry for an Experimental Amateur Built aircraft: I certify that this aircraft has been inspected on [date] in accordance with the scope and detail of appendix D to part 43, and was found to be in a condition for safe operation. The entry will include the aircrafts total time-in-service, and the name, signature, certificate number, and type of certificate held by the person performing the inspection. The above entry is required by the Operating Limitations, you should find it stated there. On Jan 22, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Bob Gibfried wrote: > > Can anyone help? > > I downloaded a sample logbook entry for an annual inspection. Short and complete but can't find it now or the original source. > > Anyone have a copy? > > Bob, Wichita > -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive.


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    Time: 04:56:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Upgrade Kit Rivet Removal
    From: "601RX" <aubme11@aol.com>
    Remove the nose skin. Remove the rivet head. Drill a 3/32 pilot head about 2/3 way through. Drill it out to 1/8. Stand the wing up on it's nose on 2 sawhorses. Cut a 2X4 that will reach from the floor up to the bottom of the spar. Drill a 3/8" hole in the end of the 2X4 a couple of inches deep. Place the 2X4 with the hole over the head of the rivet you wish to remove. It will now drive out easily with a 1/8 punch and hammer. This worked really well for me. The hammer blows go down through the 2X4 and not out into the wing. It is also a one person job this way. Mike -------- Mike Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=282989#282989




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