---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/20/10: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:11 AM - Re: where did my edge distance go? (Scotsman) 2. 05:16 AM - Cabin fittings (Scotsman) 3. 05:35 AM - Re: Cabin fittings (Paul Mulwitz) 4. 07:19 AM - Re: Cabin fittings (jaybannist@cs.com) 5. 09:18 AM - Re: Cabin fittings (Floyd Wilkes) 6. 09:24 AM - Re: Cabin fittings (Jim Belcher) 7. 04:09 PM - Re: Cabin fittings (Bill Naumuk) 8. 05:34 PM - Re: Cabin fittings (Jeff) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:46 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: where did my edge distance go? From: "Scotsman" Hey Lee, I see that you didn't get a quick response. I would not mess with the edge distance on the HT frame as it is a "more" structural part. Your best bet is to squeeze those extra mms out of a new piece of standard L. Having said that I have noticed that in a few places in the Zenith photoguide that there are compromised edge distances (on the end of a couple of pieces). Hope this helps. James -------- Cell +27 83 675 0815 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291029#291029 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:50 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Cabin fittings From: "Scotsman" Hi Listers, What is your preferred way of attached whatever material (leather etc) you have choose to, for example, the sides of the cabin? And for those who have been flying with it for a while any comments on how that lasted against the usual amount of abuse that the cabin receives? Any photos would be appreciated. Cheers James -------- Cell +27 83 675 0815 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291030#291030 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:39 AM PST US From: "Paul Mulwitz" Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Cabin fittings Hi James, My plan is to leave bare metal on cabin sides and similar areas. Any extra materials in those places serves two purposes - changing the natural appearance and reducing noise. These extra materials also add weight which is very costly in terms of utility of our craft which are severely limited in maximum gross weight. I am happy to live with bare metal apparence, and I have learned that the new ANL headsets do an incredibly good job at eliminating noise of all sorts. I'm quite sure the weight penalty for use of a fancy headset is trivial compared to a bunch of upholstery on the cabin walls. Paul XL - installing upgrade kit -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scotsman Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 5:17 AM Subject: Zenith601-List: Cabin fittings Hi Listers, What is your preferred way of attached whatever material (leather etc) you have choose to, for example, the sides of the cabin? And for those who have been flying with it for a while any comments on how that lasted against the usual amount of abuse that the cabin receives? Any photos would be appreciated. Cheers James -------- Cell +27 83 675 0815 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291030#291030 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:04 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Cabin fittings From: jaybannist@cs.com James, I made upholstery panels with an aircraft grade plastic corrugated board covered with a thin aircraft grade foam sheet and fabric, all from Airtex (Airtexinteriors.com). I added vertical strips of L angle to the fuselag e upright angles and placed strips of Velcro on those angles and horizonta l strips of Velcro on the panels. It was very easy to install and they ar e easily removable for access to "stuff" that is behind them. On the forw ard panels, I placed the Velcro directly on the inside of the fuselage ski n and filled in between the angles with fabric panels. Questions? Jay Bannister -----Original Message----- From: Scotsman Sent: Sat, Mar 20, 2010 7:16 am Subject: Zenith601-List: Cabin fittings are.co.za> Hi Listers, What is your preferred way of attached whatever material (leather etc) you have choose to, for example, the sides of the cabin? And for those who have be en flying with it for a while any comments on how that lasted against the usu al amount of abuse that the cabin receives? Any photos would be appreciated. Cheers James -------- Cell +27 83 675 0815 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291030#291030 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:18:25 AM PST US From: "Floyd Wilkes" Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Cabin fittings James, I cut several pieces of 1X2 lumber about 2 inches long and glued them to the skins. Then a small wood screw thru the panels into the wood. Floyd wilkes -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scotsman Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:17 AM Subject: Zenith601-List: Cabin fittings Hi Listers, What is your preferred way of attached whatever material (leather etc) you have choose to, for example, the sides of the cabin? And for those who have been flying with it for a while any comments on how that lasted against the usual amount of abuse that the cabin receives? Any photos would be appreciated. Cheers James -------- Cell +27 83 675 0815 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291030#291030 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:24:42 AM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Cabin fittings On Saturday 20 March 2010 08:57:23 you wrote: > James, > > I made upholstery panels with an aircraft grade plastic corrugated board > covered with a thin aircraft grade foam sheet and fabric, all from Airtex > (Airtexinteriors.com). I added vertical strips of L angle to the fuselage > upright angles and placed strips of Velcro on those angles and horizontal > strips of Velcro on the panels. It was very easy to install and they are > easily removable for access to "stuff" that is behind them. On the > forward panels, I placed the Velcro directly on the inside of the fuselage > skin and filled in between the angles with fabric panels. Questions? > For those who never plan to remove the panels (although I don't necessarily recommend that), Airtex also sells an adhesive that can be used to bond the panels directly to the aircraft. That's pretty much the standard way it's done for certificated aircraft, when using their panels. I've used it a number of times, with good results. I'm a little surprised Airtex hasn't offered Zenith panels. -- ======================================= Jim B. Belcher BS,MS Physics A&P/IA General Radio Telephone Certificate Instrument Rated Pilot Retired Aerospace Technical Manager Semi-proficient Househusband ======================================= ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:01 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Cabin fittings James- I used V+S 1081 Spray Trim Adhesive available from ACS to attach sound insulation. I don't think it looks too bad (Picture attached) and you kill two birds with one stone. bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Floyd Wilkes" Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 12:17 PM Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Cabin fittings > > James, > > I cut several pieces of 1X2 lumber about 2 inches long and glued them to > the > skins. Then a small wood screw thru the panels into the wood. > > Floyd wilkes > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scotsman > Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:17 AM > To: zenith601-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith601-List: Cabin fittings > > > > Hi Listers, > > What is your preferred way of attached whatever material (leather etc) you > have choose to, for example, the sides of the cabin? And for those who > have > been flying with it for a while any comments on how that lasted against > the > usual amount of abuse that the cabin receives? > > Any photos would be appreciated. > > Cheers > > > James > > -------- > Cell +27 83 675 0815 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291030#291030 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:02 PM PST US From: "Jeff " Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Cabin fittings Here is another idea. I used some extra 6061 to make the side panels. Then I glued Naugahyde to the aluminum. The panels are held on with Velcro for easy removal and tucked up under the upper longeron cap. Picture attached. 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