---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/26/10: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:39 AM - 701 down (Craig Spainhower) 2. 05:16 AM - Re: 701 down (Keith Ashcraft) 3. 05:22 AM - Re: 701 down/ NO Slats ???? (fritz) 4. 05:29 AM - Re: 701 down (fritz) 5. 05:30 AM - Re: Aileron balance weights (paul baker) 6. 05:42 AM - Re: 701 down/ NO Slats ???? (Keith Ashcraft) 7. 07:12 AM - Re: Fuel tank filler (AZFlyer) 8. 07:46 AM - AOPA (Frank Derfler) 9. 07:50 AM - Re: Video of the FAA Report and Load Test (Geoff Heap) 10. 07:52 AM - Re: 701 down (ella) 11. 07:56 AM - Re: 701 down (Klaus Weiss) 12. 08:53 AM - The EAA Article? (Frank Derfler) 13. 03:12 PM - Re: AOPA (PatrickW) 14. 04:12 PM - Re: AOPA (LHusky@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:39:40 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: 701 down From: Craig Spainhower It looks like a 701 made a hard forced landing after take-off in Eldon, MO. Here's the link. http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=433875 Craig S. N601XS, 601xl 0-235 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:09 AM PST US From: Keith Ashcraft Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: 701 down Interesting story. I didn't know that I had to be "certified to construct a home built plane" Keith **************************************************************** ________________________________ From: Craig Spainhower Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 1:35:38 AM Subject: Zenith601-List: 701 down It looks like a 701 made a hard forced landing after take-off in Eldon, MO. Here's the link. http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=433875 Craig S. N601XS, 601xl 0-235 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:22:09 AM PST US From: "fritz" Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: 701 down/ NO Slats ???? Was this airplane flying without the slats installed????????? It looks like the "slat brackets" are visible in the picture> Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Spainhower To: zenith601-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 3:35 AM Subject: Zenith601-List: 701 down It looks like a 701 made a hard forced landing after take-off in Eldon, MO. Here's the link. http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=433875 Craig S. N601XS, 601xl 0-235 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:13 AM PST US From: "fritz" Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: 701 down more interesting is the pic-----------do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Ashcraft To: zenith601-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: 701 down Interesting story. I didn't know that I had to be "certified to construct a home built plane" Keith **************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: Craig Spainhower To: zenith601-list@matronics.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 1:35:38 AM Subject: Zenith601-List: 701 down It looks like a 701 made a hard forced landing after take-off in Eldon, MO. Here's the link. http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=433875 Craig S. N601XS, 601xl 0-235 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:01 AM PST US From: "paul baker" Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Aileron balance weights Mark the lead in the tube only goes in about 6'.We added a few weights then on the out side. The hole in the rear spar was enlarged just enough to clear the weights on the outside.This is at the end of the wing and does not carry much weight so it is not weakened .In the future if I need to service the balance or remove the alerion"excuse the spelling" . paul baker -601 flying again and enjoying every minute ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:04 AM PST US From: Keith Ashcraft Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: 701 down/ NO Slats ???? I think you are correct!! I does look like the slats are removed. This should start an interesting conversation on the group!!!! Do not archive ________________________________ From: fritz Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 6:19:14 AM Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: 701 down/ NO Slats ???? Was this airplane flying without the slats installed????????? It looks like the "slat brackets" are visible in the picture> Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- >From: Craig Spainhower >To: zenith601-list@matronics.com >Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 3:35 >AM >Subject: Zenith601-List: 701 down > > >It looks like a 701 made a hard forced landing after take-off in > Eldon, MO. Here's the link. http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=433875 > >Craig S. >N601XS, 601xl 0-235 > > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:23 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Fuel tank filler From: "AZFlyer" EZ Turn definitely sounds like the ticket...I'll order some today. Thanks for the heads up. Mike -------- Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com 601 XL, 3300, Dynon Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291796#291796 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:29 AM PST US From: Frank Derfler Subject: Zenith601-List: AOPA I fully agree with Roger and Jim. I find this publication's attitude very strange. And let's note that it seems this is the attitude of the publication... there are other editors and publishers who look at these things before they go to print. It doesn't seem that this is just some writer gone rogue. I know that I wrote a strong, referenced, and reasoned note to the author and editor after the original article and received a bland reply. Each person is free to project motives onto these folks, but when I look at it I don't see any reason to continue to belong to AOPA. -- Frank Derfler, 601XL N183AM, (now in Eastman) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:34 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Video of the FAA Report and Load Test From: "Geoff Heap" How about sending a link to Bruce Landesberg....Geoff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291805#291805 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:32 AM PST US From: "ella" Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: 701 down I wonder where you get that certification ha ha ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Ashcraft To: zenith601-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: 701 down Interesting story. I didn't know that I had to be "certified to construct a home built plane" Keith **************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: Craig Spainhower To: zenith601-list@matronics.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 1:35:38 AM Subject: Zenith601-List: 701 down It looks like a 701 made a hard forced landing after take-off in Eldon, MO. Here's the link. http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=433875 Craig S. N601XS, 601xl 0-235 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:06 AM PST US From: "Klaus Weiss" Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: 701 down Maybe it should read "certifiable". Do not archive. Klaus Weiss Allied Marine & Industrial Phone: 905-834-8275 Fax: 905-834-3564 Mobile: 905-687-0734 From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ella Sent: 26/Mar/2010 10:52 AM Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: 701 down I wonder where you get that certification ha ha ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Ashcraft Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: 701 down Interesting story. I didn't know that I had to be "certified to construct a home built plane" Keith **************************************************************** _____ From: Craig Spainhower Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 1:35:38 AM Subject: Zenith601-List: 701 down It looks like a 701 made a hard forced landing after take-off in Eldon, MO. Here's the link. http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=433875 Craig S. N601XS, 601xl 0-235 href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:53:08 AM PST US From: Frank Derfler Subject: Zenith601-List: The EAA Article? A new article just popped up from EAA Experimenter. At second reading, it seems pretty fair. The author did reporting, not editorializing. I'd have preferred a brighter spin, but the author took also gave a big picture look at the FAA, Experimental, and LSA relationships. Your take? See http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2010-03_zodiac.asp ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:12:04 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: AOPA From: "PatrickW" I just pitched my AOPA renewal notice in the trash. Been a member for a few years, but I get the impression that they're more of a "GA" outfit, and that us homebuilders are not even on their radar. - Pat -------- Patrick XL/650/Corvair N63PZ (reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291869#291869 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:41 PM PST US From: LHusky@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: AOPA I was contacted by the AOPA today due to a letter I sent them on this very subject. I told them that when I owned a Cessna, I seemed to get different treatment when I called. One of the first questions they asked was what type of aircraft I had. At the time, I told them a Cessna. OK, all good. When I recently called to ask a few questions, I was again asked what type of aircraft I had. I told them an experimental. I did not even mention the words Zenith 601XL. Instantly the mood changed. I felt like I had just walked into a school classroom NAKED! So, I sent them a letter telling them what my experience was and that I felt I did not need to be a member of an organization that makes me feel like that. Well, yesterday, they called and I let them have it verbally; I told them they are going to see a drop in their membership due to people feeling like second rate citizens because we own experimental aircraft. I explained that I wanted them to take my name off their list and do not contact me again, unless they go to work for the EAA. Vented!! Larry Husky Madras, Oregon In a message dated 3/26/2010 7:47:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, fderfler@gmail.com writes: I fully agree with Roger and Jim. I find this publication's attitude very strange. And let's note that it seems this is the attitude of the publication... there are other editors and publishers who look at these things before they go to print. It doesn't seem that this is just some writer gone rogue. I know that I wrote a strong, referenced, and reasoned note to the author and editor after the original article and received a bland reply. Each person is free to project motives onto these folks, but when I look at it I don't see any reason to continue to belong to AOPA. -- Frank Derfler, 601XL N183AM, (now in Eastman) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith601-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith601-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith601-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith601-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.