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1. 04:59 AM - Chat Reminder for "Digesters" (George Race)
2. 10:09 AM - Effective Gross Weight (Damien)
3. 10:32 AM - Re: two questions (Scotsman)
4. 11:22 AM - Re: two questions (Bryan Martin)
5. 07:09 PM - Re: Effective Gross Weight (Peter Chapman)
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| Subject: | Chat Reminder for "Digesters" |
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| Subject: | Effective Gross Weight |
When I bought my Zodiac 601 HDS from the builder, he mentioned to me the
concept of
"effective gross weight". I think he mentioned that it was 1050 pounds.
We had a lot of
other things to talk about so I did not get back to the topic to ask
more about it.
I notice that on the Zenith website, that even though the gross weignt
for the HDS is
listed at 1200 pounds, the figures for stall speed and climb are listed
using 1050 pounds.
Does anyone know more about this subject?
Regards,
Damien
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| Subject: | Re: two questions |
Hi Lee,
I bought the kit as a whole so I can't tell you in which subkit the cylinders are
found. What I can tell you is that a set is definitely included somewhere
in the kit. A call to Zenith as you said should sort this out.
Unfortunately I do not have a set of plans to hand but I remember the majority
of the firewall being A5. If in doubt I would use the stronger larger rivet.
If you send a pic through I can walk downstairs and check as I do not know what
part 6-B-7 was.
Cheers
James
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| Subject: | Re: two questions |
I'm pretty sure my brake master cylinders came with the landing gear kit.
On Apr 3, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Lee Steensland wrote:
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> I have all almost all the subkits for my XL. I have the gear kit and the canopy
on order (should be here soon).
>
> I'm working on the cabin floor and I just to the the point where I'm going to
fit the brake master cylinders for the pilot side, and noticed I don't have any,
anywhere. Looking over the pick list for all the kit sections I have, none
of them make note of the MC-5 brake parts. I have the rudder pedals and the bearings
as well as the pilot side brake pedals.
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> I'm looking for others' experiences. What part of the kit did your brakes come
with?
>
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Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Effective Gross Weight |
At 13:08 04-04-10, you wrote:
>When I bought my Zodiac 601 HDS from the builder, he mentioned to me
>the concept of
>"effective gross weight". I think he mentioned that it was 1050
>pounds. We had a lot of
[...]
>Damien
I can't recall for sure, but I think it went something like this:
Back in the day the orignal 601 was only designed for 1058 lbs,
sometimes rounded off to 1050 lbs. I think the Canadian Advanced
Ultralight class was then also only 1058 max (480kg) before later
going up. As Zenair upped the strength of the HD to match the new
1200 limit, and later built the HDS for 1200 lbs as well, they just
kept on using 1050 as an old standard for quoting performance. E.g.,
even in the well-known Popular Mechanics article of 1997, for the HDS
they stated 1200 gross, but showed performance for "800 lbs (Solo)"
and "1050 lbs (Dual)".
So for the HDS I don't think there's any reason to think of 1050 as
any sort of physical limit.
Peter Chapman
Toronto, ON 601 HDS / 912 / C-GZDC
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