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1. 05:41 AM - Chat reminder for "Digesters" (George Race)
2. 07:32 AM - Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons? (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
3. 02:11 PM - Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons? (Terry Phillips)
4. 06:55 PM - Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons? (Ron Lendon)
5. 07:21 PM - Re: Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons? (Paul Mulwitz)
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| Subject: | Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons? |
Every upgrade I have done has been converted to hingeless. It only takes
about 2 hours to convert it and is much better on the stick force. I think it
costs around 100.00 and I just don't like all the weight on the outboard
side of the hingeless part of the aileron, if it were in the middle of the
aileron it wouldn't bother me as much but that can't be done because of the
trim tab.
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons? |
Jeff
I am confused by your post. I think that you are saying that every upgrade
with flex hinges ailerons has been converted to piano hinged ailerons. Is
that correct?
If so, are you saying that the aileron stick forces are significantly
lighter than with with the flex hinges?
Also, are you adding the angle on the bottom of the aileron side of the
hinge as was shown in a post on this subject some time ago?
Finally, have you moved the counterbalance ribs inboard a bit to avoid the
interference between the weights and the wing internals (that you mentioned
somewhere), or are you bending the square tube, or what?
Terry
At 10:25 AM 4/11/2010 -0400, you wrote:
>Every upgrade I have done has been converted to hingeless. It only takes
>about 2 hours to convert it and is much better on the stick force. I think
>it costs around 100.00 and I just don't like all the weight on the
>outboard side of the hingeless part of the aileron, if it were in the
>middle of the aileron it wouldn't bother me as much but that can't be done
>because of the trim tab.
>
>Jeff
Terry Phillips
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
ZU-601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail & flaps are done;
Upgrading wings & ailerons per the AMD Safety Directive
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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| Subject: | Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons? |
psm(at)att.net wrote:
> Hi Ron,
>
> The copy included with the upgrade kit I received clearly states the balance
> is to be applied to the hingeless ailerons as well as the hinged ones.
>
> Paul
> XL performing upgrade
>
>
> --
Paul, All well and good but if it's not to much trouble can you point me to the
actual document that states this. From my reading it appears implied, but I
certainly may have missed what you read.
Just finished up a hinged version and did apply the mass balance there. As my
prior post states I was planning on not for the hingless just because it doesn't
seem right to my logic.
Thanks,
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Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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| Subject: | Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons? |
Hi Ron,
It is in a box just left of top center of drawing 6ZU-4 dated 25 JAN 2010.
It says "Aileron mass balance also to be installed on ailerons with flex
hinge 6W2-3".
Best regards,
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Lendon
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 6:55 PM
Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons?
psm(at)att.net wrote:
> Hi Ron,
>
> The copy included with the upgrade kit I received clearly states the
balance
> is to be applied to the hingeless ailerons as well as the hinged ones.
>
> Paul
> XL performing upgrade
>
>
> --
Paul, All well and good but if it's not to much trouble can you point me to
the actual document that states this. From my reading it appears implied,
but I certainly may have missed what you read.
Just finished up a hinged version and did apply the mass balance there. As
my prior post states I was planning on not for the hingless just because it
doesn't seem right to my logic.
Thanks,
--------
Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293901#293901
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