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1. 04:54 AM - whats Scott up to? (chris Sinfield)
2. 06:44 AM - Chat Reminder (George Race)
3. 07:27 AM - Re: whats Scott up to? (Bill Naumuk)
4. 08:24 AM - Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons? (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
5. 08:43 AM - Re: whats Scott up to? (Jerry)
6. 10:52 AM - Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons? (Terry Phillips)
7. 11:42 AM - Aileron control stop (Bob McArdle)
8. 03:51 PM - Re: Aileron control stop (Floyd Wilkes)
9. 04:41 PM - Nose Gear (chuck960)
10. 04:55 PM - Re: Nose Gear (jaybannist@cs.com)
11. 05:51 PM - Re: Nose Gear (Karl Polifka)
12. 08:33 PM - Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons? (Ron Lendon)
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| Subject: | whats Scott up to? |
Hey
I was trying to contact Scott Laughlin at his cooking with gas email but it no
longer works. Does he have a new one???I have a few Q's to ask him
Chris.
zodiac XL
Sydney
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| Subject: | Re: whats Scott up to? |
Chris-
Try the Corvair website.
Bill
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----- Original Message -----
From: "chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:53 AM
Subject: Zenith601-List: whats Scott up to?
> <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
>
> Hey
> I was trying to contact Scott Laughlin at his cooking with gas email but
> it no longer works. Does he have a new one???I have a few Q's to ask him
> Chris.
> zodiac XL
> Sydney
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293936#293936
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| Subject: | Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons? |
In a message dated 4/11/2010 5:12:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
ttp44@rkymtn.net writes:
Jeff
I am confused by your post. I think that you are saying that every upgrade
with flex hinges ailerons has been converted to piano hinged ailerons. Is
that correct?
Yes and I think all upgrades should have been done but that is just my
opinion.
If so, are you saying that the aileron stick forces are significantly
lighter than with with the flex hinges?
Not significantly lighter but there is a difference due to less resistance.
Also, are you adding the angle on the bottom of the aileron side of the
hinge as was shown in a post on this subject some time ago?
Yes, Zenith supplies the parts and it is a simple upgrade that doesn't
require you to reopen the ailerons.
Finally, have you moved the counterbalance ribs inboard a bit to avoid the
interference between the weights and the wing internals (that you
mentioned
somewhere), or are you bending the square tube, or what?
Yes the counter balance weights are moved inboard 100mm and that takes care
of the problem. If you use the 90 degree method it might fit also but I
like the ribs angled and that's how I do them.
Terry
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| Subject: | Re: whats Scott up to? |
---- chris Sinfield <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hey
> I was trying to contact Scott Laughlin at his cooking with gas email but it no
longer works. Does he have a new one???I have a few Q's to ask him
> Chris.
> zodiac XL
> Sydney
You might try to leave him a comment at Zenith.aero. He is a member there.
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons? |
Thanks, Jeff
At 11:20 AM 4/12/2010 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 4/11/2010 5:12:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>ttp44@rkymtn.net writes:
>>Jeff
>>
>>I am confused by your post. I think that you are saying that every upgrade
>>with flex hinges ailerons has been converted to piano hinged ailerons. Is
>>that correct?
>Yes and I think all upgrades should have been done but that is just my
>opinion.
>
>
>If so, are you saying that the aileron stick forces are significantly
>lighter than with with the flex hinges?
>
>Not significantly lighter but there is a difference due to less resistance.
>
>
>Also, are you adding the angle on the bottom of the aileron side of the
>hinge as was shown in a post on this subject some time ago?
>
>Yes, Zenith supplies the parts and it is a simple upgrade that doesn't
>require you to reopen the ailerons.
>
>Finally, have you moved the counterbalance ribs inboard a bit to avoid the
>interference between the weights and the wing internals (that you mentioned
>somewhere), or are you bending the square tube, or what?
>
>Yes the counter balance weights are moved inboard 100mm and that takes
>care of the problem. If you use the 90 degree method it might fit also but
>I like the ribs angled and that's how I do them.
>
>Terry
do not archive
Terry Phillips
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
ZU-601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail & flaps are done;
Upgrading wings & ailerons per the AMD Safety Directive
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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| Subject: | Aileron control stop |
To those that have finished this step. What is the approx cutout for
proper aileron deflection? The furnished part is 50mm and the directions
say to enlarge wide enough to keep the weights from hitting. Without
puting on the wings and hooking up the aileron controls it is hard to
make this cutout. Does anyone who has completed this step have an approx
of cutout width and depth? TIA Bob
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| Subject: | Aileron control stop |
I waited until the wings were on and ailerons rigged before putting the stop
in.
It is easy to do that way and you can cut it just right.
Floyd Wilkes
601XL upgrade done and flying
From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob McArdle
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:42 PM
Subject: Zenith601-List: Aileron control stop
To those that have finished this step. What is the approx cutout for proper
aileron deflection? The furnished part is 50mm and the directions say to
enlarge wide enough to keep the weights from hitting. Without puting on the
wings and hooking up the aileron controls it is hard to make this cutout.
Does anyone who has completed this step have an approx of cutout width and
depth? TIA Bob
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Guys,
I added the shock cord to the nose gear leg today and I am wondering why it is
so difficult to move the rudder pedals. The shock cord holds the gear very tightly
into the V groove in the Nylon block. I can see that once the engine weight
is added it will take some of the pull out of the cord. It seams to me that
it might be OK on the ground but in the air it will be very hard to move the
rudder. Am I missing something here?
Chuck Dean
Ch650
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Chuck,
I thought the very same thing. However, it proved to be of no concern.
It works fine on the ground and in the air. I think my experience is pre
tty much like most others.
Jay Bannister
Guys,
I added the shock cord to the nose gear leg today and I am wondering why
it is
so difficult to move the rudder pedals.
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Chuck,
Rudder movement is easy. The resistance you feel is because you are on the
ground and the rudder and nose gear are connected. All is okay with
movement. BTW -- don't land with a cocked nose gear with this setup.
Karl
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From: "chuck960" <chuckde@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:40 PM
Subject: Zenith601-List: Nose Gear
>
> Guys,
> I added the shock cord to the nose gear leg today and I am wondering why
> it is so difficult to move the rudder pedals. The shock cord holds the
> gear very tightly into the V groove in the Nylon block. I can see that
> once the engine weight is added it will take some of the pull out of the
> cord. It seams to me that it might be OK on the ground but in the air it
> will be very hard to move the rudder. Am I missing something here?
> Chuck Dean
> Ch650
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294029#294029
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Keep Hingeless ailerons? |
psm(at)att.net wrote:
> Hi Ron,
>
> It is in a box just left of top center of drawing 6ZU-4 dated 25 JAN 2010.
> It says "Aileron mass balance also to be installed on ailerons with flex
> hinge 6W2-3".
>
> Best regards,
>
> Paul
>
>
> --
Thanks Paul, I read right over that.
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Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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