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1. 07:58 AM - Ailerons push-pull controls (pavel569)
2. 10:16 AM - Re: Control Harmony (Scotsman)
3. 03:47 PM - 601 crash pilot killed (dave)
4. 05:07 PM - Re: 601 crash pilot killed (Gary Gower)
5. 05:19 PM - Re: 601 crash pilot killed (Jim Belcher)
6. 05:23 PM - Re: 601 crash pilot killed (Paul Mulwitz)
7. 06:11 PM - Forward top skin (chuck960)
8. 11:36 PM - Re: 601 crash pilot killed (Gary Gower)
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| Subject: | Ailerons push-pull controls |
I'm about to order the upgrade kit and I'm thinking about the push-pull tubes for
aileron controls. Does anytime anybody from Zenith or so commented in any way
this modification?
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Pavel
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Zodiac 601XL
Stratus Subaru EA-81
Tail, flaps, ailerons, wings done (not anymore), fuselage is on the table ....
"do not archive"
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| Subject: | Re: Control Harmony |
Hi Paul, it is not the stiffness but rather that increased airflow directed directly
onto the aileron from the VG increases aileron effectiveness. Therefore
the angle of deflection per angle of stick movement remains the same but airflow
at a different angle is deflected onto the aileron making it more effective.
I can't remember the Kitplanes issue but if you read Barnaby Wainfan's recent articles
you will see it in there.
Has anyone tried this?
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| Subject: | 601 crash pilot killed |
http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/757147
he Hamilton Spectator
COURTLAND The president of the Tillsonburg Flying Club is dead after his single-engine
plane crashed between two houses in this village west of Delhi.
John Hart, 56, of Simcoe, who was alone in the plane at the time. The father of
eight, who taught drafting at Cayuga Secondary School was pronounced dead at
the scene following the 7:45 p.m. crash Thursday.
The single-seat plane went down between two houses on the east side of the village
on Highway 3 and about a mile short of the clubs grass airstrip and hangars
on Byerlay Road north of the crash scene.
The aircraft came down on the lawn between two houses on the north Side of Main
Street (Highway 3) just east of the entrance to the Courtland Lions Community
Park. The plane missed the garage of one of the homes and several vehicles by
about two meters, landing in a crumpled wreck upside down.
Norfolk OPP identified the pilot as John Hart of Norfolk County .
Courtland is about halfway between Delhi and Tillsonburg.
This is the second plane crash near Courtland in less than a year. Alvin Foster,
a local man in his 80s, died after his Cessna 150 crashed into a cornfield on
Byerlay Road, south of the village on Aug. 12, 2009.
Foster had survived a plane crash twice previously near Courtland, once when his
plane flipped while landing in a plowed field in 2002 and again when he hit
some trees after his engine failed during takeoff from his private strip in April
2007.
The OPP say they are not connecting the two crashes at this time as they appear
separate.
Ontario Provincial Police said the pilot in the latest incident was pronounced
dead at the scene.
Officials from Transportation Safety Board were expected to be at the scene this
morning.
Norfolk OPP Constable Kari Lee said police were called to the crash.
"We got a report of it and we responded to it," she said last night.
Members from the OPP's Technical Collision Investigation Unit and Forensic Identification
Unit also responded to the crash.
Lee said the identity of the pilot was being withheld pending notification of next
of kin. The pilot was the only occupant in the plane.
"It didn't hit the home or do anything to the homes, but it is on the residents'
property there," Lee said.
The crash site had been secured overnight by police.
Investigators would like to speak with anyone who may have observed or heard anything
leading up to and including the crash. Police can be contacted at 1-888-310-1122
or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477).
In last year's crash, police responded after Foster was overdue from returning
home. Residents did not report a fire or plume of smoke following the crash.
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| Subject: | Re: 601 crash pilot killed |
Sorry to read this sad news... =C2-The plane was a 601 HD... =C2-=C2-
Lets all fly safe. =C2-Now wait for the investigation results.
Gary Gower
--- On Fri, 4/23/10, dave <dave@cfisher.com> wrote:
From: dave <dave@cfisher.com>
Subject: Zenith601-List: 601 crash pilot killed
http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/757147
he Hamilton Spectator
COURTLAND =93 The president of the Tillsonburg Flying Club is dead af
ter his single-engine plane crashed between two houses in this village west
of Delhi.
John Hart, 56, of Simcoe, who was alone in the plane at the time. The fathe
r of eight, who taught drafting at Cayuga Secondary School was pronounced d
ead at the scene following the 7:45 p.m. crash Thursday.
The single-seat plane went down between two houses on the east side of the
village on=C2- Highway 3 and about a mile short of the club=99s gra
ss airstrip and hangars on Byerlay Road north of the crash scene.
The aircraft came down on the=C2- lawn between two houses on the north Si
de of Main Street (Highway 3) just east of the entrance to the Courtland Li
ons Community Park. The plane missed the garage of one of the homes and sev
eral vehicles by about two meters, landing in a crumpled wreck upside down.
Norfolk OPP=C2- identified the pilot as John Hart of Norfolk County .
Courtland is about halfway between Delhi and Tillsonburg.
This is the second plane crash near Courtland in less than a year. Alvin Fo
ster, a local man in his 80s, died after his Cessna 150 crashed into a corn
field on Byerlay Road, south of the village on Aug. 12, 2009.
Foster had survived a plane crash twice previously near Courtland, once whe
n his plane flipped while landing in a plowed field in 2002 and again when
he hit some trees after his engine failed during takeoff from his private s
trip in April 2007.
The OPP say they are not connecting the two crashes at this time as they
=9Cappear separate.=9D
Ontario Provincial Police said the pilot in the latest incident was pronoun
ced dead at the scene.
Officials from Transportation Safety Board were expected to be at the scene
this morning.
Norfolk OPP Constable Kari Lee said police were called to the crash.
"We got a report of it and we responded to it," she said last night.
Members from the OPP's Technical Collision Investigation Unit and Forensic
Identification Unit also responded to the crash.
Lee said the identity of the pilot was being withheld pending notification
of next of kin. The pilot was the only occupant in the plane.
"It didn't hit the home or do anything to the homes, but it is on the resid
ents' property there," Lee said.
The crash site had been secured overnight by police.
Investigators would like to speak with anyone who may have observed or hear
d anything leading up to and including the crash. Police can be contacted a
t 1-888-310-1122 or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477).
In last year's crash, police responded after Foster was overdue from return
ing home. Residents did not report a fire or plume of smoke following the c
rash.
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| Subject: | Re: 601 crash pilot killed |
On Friday 23 April 2010 17:47:08 you wrote:
>
> http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/757147
>
>
> he Hamilton Spectator
> COURTLAND The president of the Tillsonburg Flying Club is dead after
> his single-engine plane crashed between two houses in this village west of
> Delhi.
I assume this was a 601XL, although it's hard to tell from the photo. If so,
does anyone know if it had the modifications performed?
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| Subject: | 601 crash pilot killed |
Hi Dave,
I wasn't sure what sort of plane or accident this article was about so I did a
little research on the net. I found a bunch of better photos on the Delhi News-Record
site. Here are the results of my amateur photo interpretation:
The plane was clearly a Zodiac, but I don't think it was a Zodiac XL. The main
landing gear has metal slabs on both sides of each wheel. The Zodiac XL I built
has a gear spring that holds both wheels with metal on one side of each main
gear wheel.
The wings are attached to the fuselage as is the empenage. Therefore, there was
not an in-flight structure failure and breakup.
This is a sad event. Another member of the Zodiac community has had a bad outcome
from flying his plane. On the brighter side (for the rest of us) this was
not another example of a Zodiac XL breaking up in flight.
Paul
XL installing upgrade
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From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 3:47 PM
Subject: Zenith601-List: 601 crash pilot killed
http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/757147
he Hamilton Spectator
COURTLAND The president of the Tillsonburg Flying Club is dead after his single-engine
plane crashed between two houses in this village west of Delhi.
John Hart, 56, of Simcoe, who was alone in the plane at the time. The father of
eight, who taught drafting at Cayuga Secondary School was pronounced dead at
the scene following the 7:45 p.m. crash Thursday.
The single-seat plane went down between two houses on the east side of the village
on Highway 3 and about a mile short of the clubs grass airstrip and hangars
on Byerlay Road north of the crash scene.
The aircraft came down on the lawn between two houses on the north Side of Main
Street (Highway 3) just east of the entrance to the Courtland Lions Community
Park. The plane missed the garage of one of the homes and several vehicles by
about two meters, landing in a crumpled wreck upside down.
Norfolk OPP identified the pilot as John Hart of Norfolk County .
Courtland is about halfway between Delhi and Tillsonburg.
This is the second plane crash near Courtland in less than a year. Alvin Foster,
a local man in his 80s, died after his Cessna 150 crashed into a cornfield on
Byerlay Road, south of the village on Aug. 12, 2009.
Foster had survived a plane crash twice previously near Courtland, once when his
plane flipped while landing in a plowed field in 2002 and again when he hit
some trees after his engine failed during takeoff from his private strip in April
2007.
The OPP say they are not connecting the two crashes at this time as they appear
separate.
Ontario Provincial Police said the pilot in the latest incident was pronounced
dead at the scene.
Officials from Transportation Safety Board were expected to be at the scene this
morning.
Norfolk OPP Constable Kari Lee said police were called to the crash.
"We got a report of it and we responded to it," she said last night.
Members from the OPP's Technical Collision Investigation Unit and Forensic Identification
Unit also responded to the crash.
Lee said the identity of the pilot was being withheld pending notification of next
of kin. The pilot was the only occupant in the plane.
"It didn't hit the home or do anything to the homes, but it is on the residents'
property there," Lee said.
The crash site had been secured overnight by police.
Investigators would like to speak with anyone who may have observed or heard anything
leading up to and including the crash. Police can be contacted at 1-888-310-1122
or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477).
In last year's crash, police responded after Foster was overdue from returning
home. Residents did not report a fire or plume of smoke following the crash.
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| Subject: | Forward top skin |
Gentleman,
Has anyone had any issues with the forward top skin, instrument panel to firewall?
Specifically the dimensions from the centerline to the bend lines?
Chuck
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| Subject: | Re: 601 crash pilot killed |
Is a sad notice.=C2-=C2- This is the page of the Club,=C2- with a pho
to of the plane.
=C2-
http://www.tillsonburgflyingclub.com/
--- On Fri, 4/23/10, Jim Belcher <Z601c@anemicaardvark.com> wrote:
From: Jim Belcher <Z601c@anemicaardvark.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: 601 crash pilot killed
>
On Friday 23 April 2010 17:47:08 you wrote:
>
> http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/757147
>
>
> he Hamilton Spectator
> COURTLAND =C3=A2=82=AC=9C The president of the Tillsonburg Flyin
g Club is dead after
>=C2- his single-engine plane crashed between two houses in this village
west of
>=C2- Delhi.
I assume this was a 601XL, although it's hard to tell from the photo. If so
,
does anyone know if it had the modifications performed?
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