---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/03/10: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:14 AM - Re: Fuel smell in cockpit (maybe) 2. 12:26 AM - Re: Re: Fuel smell in cockpit (Paul Mulwitz) 3. 12:39 AM - Re: Fuel smell in cockpit (maybe) 4. 05:20 AM - Re: Re: Fuel smell in cockpit (Bryan Martin) 5. 11:38 AM - Re: Lil Bruiser (Geoff Heap) 6. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: Fuel smell in cockpit (Jim Belcher) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:14:13 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Fuel smell in cockpit From: "maybe" Hi Bryan, Yes I use Autogas. I have the Jabiru 2200 engine and its approved for the use of 95 Octane autogas. I must say....during the "Run In" period (first 25 hours of engine life) I used AVGAS as specified and the smell was a little better..... So now...if one use Autogas.....and it smells.....and we can't do anything about the smelly gasoline.......does anyone have a good Idea of how to extract or blow out or eliminate or minimize the presence of the fuel smell? Special airfreshner or other vent holes/systems? Thanks Martyn Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=296562#296562 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:26:42 AM PST US From: "Paul Mulwitz" Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Re: Fuel smell in cockpit Hi Martyn, Do you have cabin heat installed? That should force air through the cabin and vent the fumes. Paul XL installing upgrade -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of maybe Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:11 AM Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Fuel smell in cockpit Hi Bryan, Yes I use Autogas. I have the Jabiru 2200 engine and its approved for the use of 95 Octane autogas. I must say....during the "Run In" period (first 25 hours of engine life) I used AVGAS as specified and the smell was a little better..... So now...if one use Autogas.....and it smells.....and we can't do anything about the smelly gasoline.......does anyone have a good Idea of how to extract or blow out or eliminate or minimize the presence of the fuel smell? Special airfreshner or other vent holes/systems? Thanks Martyn Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=296562#296562 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:39:09 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Fuel smell in cockpit From: "maybe" Unfortunately no cabin heat ( I live in the warmer side of South Africa...we "almost" never need cabin heat) I have installed snap vents..... it does help a bit....but I need more... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=296565#296565 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:20:10 AM PST US From: Bryan Martin Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Fuel smell in cockpit Activated charcoal canisters are used on cars here to soak up fuel vapors from the tank instead of venting them. Maybe you could hook a hose from your fuel vent to a charcoal canister to prevent the fumes from seeping into the plane. I don't know if it would work or not. On May 3, 2010, at 3:11 AM, maybe wrote: > So now...if one use Autogas.....and it smells.....and we can't do anything about the smelly gasoline.......does anyone have a good Idea of how to extract or blow out or eliminate or minimize the presence of the fuel smell? Special airfreshner or other vent holes/systems? > > > Thanks > Martyn -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:38:04 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Lil Bruiser From: "Geoff Heap" Jay. Please reconsider. I dont know you and we've never swapped emails but I've seen your name on here plenty over the years. I consider all who post here to be friends, yourself too. You have put too much into your plane to give up on it now. Think back on your building process. You know every rivet in that plane. You think you feel bad now. Imagine how youll feel after your plane is gone, thats a lot of emptiness. You have made the wrong decision. I've nearly finished my 701. I bought the plans in 1991. I'm hoping it will be ready for FAA inspection in late summer. Last year around this time (April 1st) I was diagnosed with Small cell lung cancer. Cut a long story short, I went through the Chemo and the Radiation and now I'm 10 months clean and I'm pedaling as fast as I can. I hate the thought of somebody else finishing and flying my plane. Ok you finished and flew yours but Jay, surely you meant to get more than three hours out of it. Come on Jay, The damage is not as bad as you think. Life is good. Rebuild your airplane and fly it ...... Geoff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=296595#296595 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:30 PM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Fuel smell in cockpit The autogas part of this gives me cause to wonder. Years ago, I got an STC on a certificated aircraft to burn autogas. The autogas attacked the seals in the fuel system, causing leakage, and yes, you guessed it, the smell of gas. When I returned to using avgas, the leakage and smell went away. I'm not saying this is the problem, but I do wonder. On Monday 03 May 2010 02:11:22 you wrote: > > Hi Bryan, > > Yes I use Autogas. > > I have the Jabiru 2200 engine and its approved for the use of 95 Octane > autogas. > > I must say....during the "Run In" period (first 25 hours of engine life) I > used AVGAS as specified and the smell was a little better..... > > So now...if one use Autogas.....and it smells.....and we can't do anything > about the smelly gasoline.......does anyone have a good Idea of how to > extract or blow out or eliminate or minimize the presence of the fuel > smell? Special airfreshner or other vent holes/systems? > > > Thanks > Martyn -- ======================================= Jim B. 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