---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/21/10: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:56 AM - Chat Reminder (George Race) 2. 10:03 AM - Re: more upgrade questions (Lee Steensland) 3. 10:57 AM - Re: Re: more upgrade questions (Carlos Sa) 4. 11:17 AM - Re: Re: more upgrade questions (Mark Hubelbank) 5. 12:37 PM - Rivet squeezer for solid rivets (Mark Hubelbank) 6. 03:04 PM - Re: more upgrade questions (Lee Steensland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:51 AM PST US From: "George Race" Subject: Zenith601-List: Chat Reminder Live Chat Room every Monday evening around 8:00 EDT http://www.mykitairplane.com/chat/ DO NOT ENTER ANY PASSWORD, JUST YOUR USER NAME CHOICE Check out my line of items for Experimental Airplane Builders My Products: http://www.mykitairplane.com/Products/ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:37 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: more upgrade questions From: "Lee Steensland" perhaps a little more data is in order: I've attached a picture from from the latest set of upgrade drawings dated 25 Jan 2010. I've highlighted the rivets in question. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301937#301937 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/rivetsinquestion_246.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:57:56 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: more upgrade questions From: Carlos Sa I would suggest a call to ZAC is in order... Carlos On 21 June 2010 13:01, Lee Steensland wrote: > > > > perhaps a little more data is in order: > > I've attached a picture from from the latest set of upgrade drawings dated > 25 Jan 2010. I've highlighted the rivets in question. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301937#301937 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/rivetsinquestion_246.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:17:57 AM PST US From: Mark Hubelbank Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: more upgrade questions Lee, The drawing calls for rivets on a 20 mm pitch so some new holes need to be made anyway. I did all new holes with the old holes half way way between the new ones and offset enough so as to provide sufficient hole to hole spacing. If the old holes in yours are positioned such that there is no room to provide sufficient spacing, then ZAC will have to come up with something. On 06/21/2010 1:34 PM, Carlos Sa wrote: > I would suggest a call to ZAC is in order... > > Carlos > > On 21 June 2010 13:01, Lee Steensland > wrote: > > > > > perhaps a little more data is in order: > > I've attached a picture from from the latest set of upgrade > drawings dated 25 Jan 2010. I've highlighted the rivets in question. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301937#301937 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/rivetsinquestion_246.jpg > > > * > > > * -- Mark Hubelbank NorthEast Monitoring 2 Clock Tower Place Suite 555 Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA mhubel@nemon.com 978-443-3955 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:37:37 PM PST US From: Mark Hubelbank Subject: Zenith601-List: Rivet squeezer for solid rivets If anyone is interested, I have a rivet squeezer along with the required yokes and dies to put in the solid #6 rivets in the main spar and the #5 solid rivets along the joint on the top of the center spar connecting the two half's (the 20 mm pitch rivets). The yokes are not big enough to do the solid rivets on the center spar on the vertical surfaces. I found the latter to be the easiest ones to put in with a rivet gun anyway. I am willing to lend it to others or even sell the bunch. I have about $450 tied up in all the parts. It might be a good tool for a club. It will do up to #6 rivets. -- Mark Hubelbank NorthEast Monitoring 2 Clock Tower Place Suite 555 Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA mhubel@nemon.com 978-443-3955 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:26 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: more upgrade questions From: "Lee Steensland" >From Caleb: > > Hi Lee, > A doubler, such as this, is the proper way to repair ovalled holes. That is one of the reasons for having the part installed at all. When you mess up a hole and its ovalled, you put a doubler over the hole and rivet it to the web as well as the flange. This will unload the ovalled hole and provide an alternate load path (the load now goes through the doubler) into the web. In this case the doubler is heavier than the flange material because we want to add strength beyond the normal spar. The ovalled holes are a consequence of spacing the front and rear halves further apart 1/8" but this has been accounted for in the development of the upgrade package. You don't need to worry about ovalling those holes, just so long as the holes in the doublers are all round. > Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301961#301961 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith601-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith601-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith601-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith601-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.