---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 07/24/10: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:17 AM - Trim bonding (chuck960) 2. 12:04 PM - Re: Trim bonding (Bryan Martin) 3. 03:19 PM - Re: Trim bonding (Jeff) 4. 03:28 PM - Re: Trim bonding (Craig Payne) 5. 03:38 PM - Re: Trim bonding (jaybannist@cs.com) 6. 05:38 PM - Re: Trim bonding (Karl Polifka) 7. 06:19 PM - Re: Trim bonding (jaybannist@cs.com) 8. 06:58 PM - Re: Trim bonding (Larry McFarland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:17:40 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Trim bonding From: "chuck960" I'm about to bond the forward rubber seal to the canopy plastic. Not much will stick to Plexiglass or rubber. What does the rest of the Zenith crowd use? Chuck Dean Ch650 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306152#306152 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:08 PM PST US From: Bryan Martin Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Trim bonding 3M weatherstrip adhesive. It's available at many auto parts stores and aircraft supply outlets. On Jul 24, 2010, at 2:16 PM, chuck960 wrote: > > I'm about to bond the forward rubber seal to the canopy plastic. Not much will stick to Plexiglass or rubber. What does the rest of the Zenith crowd use? > Chuck Dean > Ch650 > > -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus re-drive. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:39 PM PST US From: "Jeff " Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Trim bonding I used Stick-N-Seal from Walmart. It just takes some care to make sure the surfaces are clean and not to smear it. Zenith recommended. Jeff Davidson I'm about to bond the forward rubber seal to the canopy plastic. Not much will stick to Plexiglass or rubber. What does the rest of the Zenith crowd use? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:28:38 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Trim bonding An old post from 2006: "++ The magic bullet for attaching rubber to the canopy is a product called "Poly Zap" made by Pacer Technology. It is very specialized instant glue for adhering the slippery plastics together like Nylon, Delran, etc. Because is specialized you may not find it on the shelf at your local hobby shop, but you can easily find and buy it on-line. Application is so simple you essentially can't mess up if you just take your time. Most people think they have to spread a continuous amount of glue from one end to the other under the rubber and at the same time keep things lined up and worry about glue oozing out. Nope... just put the rubber strip in place where it's supposed to be on the canopy, then lift the edge of the rubber up at one end and place a small dot (about 1/8" in size, doesn't take much) about half way down the depth of the rubber seal and let the rubber gently come back in contact with the canopy. When that end is "tacked", move to the other end, pull the slack out of the rubber and tack that end. Now it's held in place. Then, go to the middle, half way between the two glue dots, lift the rubber up at that point and place another dot down in there. Then do it again between that middle dot and each of the end dots and so on, and so on until you have these dots applied about every 3 or 4 inches. Do the same on the inside edge of the canopy and it's done. This type of instant glue has a shorter shelf life than some of the others so keep it in a plastic bag in the refrigerator and it will remain good to use for a long time. My aircraft has been flying for 4 years now and NOT ONE of those glue dots has let go. Tail winds..... Fred Hulen" -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chuck960 Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:17 AM Subject: Zenith601-List: Trim bonding --> I'm about to bond the forward rubber seal to the canopy plastic. Not much will stick to Plexiglass or rubber. What does the rest of the Zenith crowd use? Chuck Dean Ch650 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306152#306152 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:38:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Trim bonding From: jaybannist@cs.com I used "PolyZap" also. Worked great ! Jay Bannister -----Original Message----- From: Craig Payne Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 5:28 pm Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Trim bonding m> An old post from 2006: "++ The magic bullet for attaching rubber to the canopy is a product calle d "Poly Zap" made by Pacer Technology. It is very specialized instant glue for adhering the slippery plastics together like Nylon, Delran, etc. Because is specialized you may not find it on the shelf at your local hobby shop, but you can easily find and buy it on-line. Application is so simple you essentially can't mess up if you just take your time. Most people think they have to spread a continuous amount of glue from one end to the other under the rubber and at the same time keep things lin ed up and worry about glue oozing out. Nope... just put the rubber strip in place where it's supposed to be on the canopy, then lift the edge of the rubber up at one end and place a small dot (about 1/8" in size, doesn't take much) about half way down the depth of the rubber seal and let the rubber gently come back in contact wi th the canopy. When that end is "tacked", move to the other end, pull the slack out of the rubber and tack that end. Now it's held in place. Then, go to the middle, half way between the two glue dots, lift the rubber up at that point and place another dot down in there. Then do it again between that middle dot and each of th e end dots and so on, and so on until you have these dots applied about every 3 or 4 inches. Do the same on the inside edge of the canopy and it's done. This type of instant glue has a shorter shelf life than some of the others so keep it in a plastic bag in the refrigerator and it will remain good to use for a long time. My aircraft has been flying for 4 years now and NOT ONE of those glue dots ha s let go. Tail winds..... Fred Hulen" -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chuck960 Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:17 AM Subject: Zenith601-List: Trim bonding --> I'm about to bond the forward rubber seal to the canopy plastic. Not much will stick to Plexiglass or rubber. What does the rest of the Zenith crowd use? Chuck Dean Ch650 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306152#306152 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:50 PM PST US From: "Karl Polifka" Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Trim bonding Remember that you will eventually have to replace that piece of rubber -- don't make it impossible. Karl From: jaybannist@cs.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:38 PM Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Trim bonding I used "PolyZap" also. Worked great ! Jay Bannister -----Original Message----- From: Craig Payne Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 5:28 pm Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Trim bonding An old post from 2006: "++ The magic bullet for attaching rubber to the canopy is a product called "Poly Zap" made by Pacer Technology. It is very specialized instant glue for adhering the slippery plastics together like Nylon, Delran, etc. Because is specialized you may not find it on the shelf at your local hobby shop, but you can easily find and buy it on-line. Application is so simple you essentially can't mess up if you just take your time. Most people think they have to spread a continuous amount of glue from one end to the other under the rubber and at the same time keep things lined up and worry about glue oozing out. Nope... just put the rubber strip in place where it's supposed to be on the canopy, then lift the edge of the rubber up at one end and place a small dot (about 1/8" in size, doesn't take much) about half way down the depth of the rubber seal and let the rubber gently come back in contact with the canopy. When that end is "tacked", move to the other end, pull the slack out of the rubber and tack that end. Now it's held in place. Then, go to the middle, half way between the two glue dots, lift the rubber up at that point and place another dot down in there. Then do it again between that middle dot and each of the end dots and so on, and so on until you have these dots applied about every 3 or 4 inches. Do the same on the inside edge of the canopy and it's done. This type of instant glue has a shorter shelf life than some of the others so keep it in a plastic bag in the refrigerator and it will remain good to use for a long time. My aircraft has been flying for 4 years now and NOT ONE of those glue dots has let go. Tail winds..... Fred Hulen" -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chuck960 Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:17 AM Subject: Zenith601-List: Trim bonding --> I'm about to bond the forward rubber seal to the canopy plastic. Not much will stick to Plexiglass or rubber. What does the rest of the Zenith crowd use? Chuck Dean Ch650 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306152#306152 t" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List ttp://forums.matronics.com "_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:19 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Trim bonding From: jaybannist@cs.com Karl, I used "dots" of PolyZap spaced about 4 to 6 inches apart along the length of the seal; and only on the part of the seal that would touch the outsid e face of the canopy bubble. That should make it removable with a razor blade sometime in the future. A funny thing happened on the way to this installation. I cut the rubber strips to length, then laid them aside. After I completed the canopy ass embly, I started looking for those strips. I turned my work space upside down and inside out and couldn't find them. After a few days of searchin g, I gave up and ordered replacements from ZAC. After I had the new ones installed, I was telling my son about losing the original ones. He was standing beside my lawnmower. He laid his hand on the lawnmower handle and asked "Were they like these ?" Sure enough, there were the originals , "hiding" in plain sight (except to me ! ) draped over the lawnmower hand le. Jay Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Karl Polifka Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 7:38 pm Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Trim bonding Remember that you will eventually have to replace that piece of rubber -- don't make it impossible. Karl ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:34 PM PST US From: Larry McFarland Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Trim bonding Hi Chuck, I used Poly Zap, comes in a tube and you only need to use a single drop each inch. Not to be smeared on the acrylic, but placed at the bottom of the rubber groove. Holds "forever" without worry. Larry McFarland 601hds at www.macsmachine.com chuck960 wrote: > > I'm about to bond the forward rubber seal to the canopy plastic. Not much will stick to Plexiglass or rubber. What does the rest of the Zenith crowd use? > Chuck Dean > Ch650 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306152#306152 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith601-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith601-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith601-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith601-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.