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Mon 07/26/10


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 09:55 AM - Re: Air vent mount (Mark Hubelbank)
     2. 10:33 AM - Re: Air vent mount (Craig Payne)
     3. 01:32 PM - Re: Air vent mount (Mark Hubelbank)
     4. 01:48 PM - Re: Air vent mount (jaybannist@cs.com)
     5. 02:08 PM - Re: Air vent mount (Craig Payne)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:55:12 AM PST US
    From: Mark Hubelbank <mhubel@nemon.com>
    Subject: Re: Air vent mount
    Thanks to all who have replied. It sounds like a toss up between the hand operated hole saw and a dremmel tool with a hole adapter. I assume the trick with a hole saw is to cut very slowly using very little pressure. That sounds safe enough. On 07/25/2010 12:58 PM, Rick Lindstrom wrote: > --> Zenith601-List message posted by: Rick Lindstrom<tigerrick@mindspring.com> > > Rich Vetterli did his by using a hole saw, turned by hand from both sides, centered on a .25" hole from a plexi drill. It took awhile, but it did turn out nicely, and there were no cracks. > > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: Craig Payne<craig@craigandjean.com> >> Sent: Jul 25, 2010 12:22 PM >> To: zenith601-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Air vent mount >> >> --> Zenith601-List message posted by: "Craig Payne"<craig@craigandjean.com> >> >> I watched Doug Dugger at Quality Sport Planes cut the hole in his 601XL >> canopy. He did it by manually turning a hand-held fly cutter. As I recall he >> used WD-40 as a lubricant. It might help to cut from both sides, I can't >> recall. >> >> -- Craig >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark >> Hubelbank >> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:23 AM >> To: zenith601-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Zenith601-List: Air vent mount >> >> --> Zenith601-List message posted by: Mark Hubelbank<mhubel@nemon.com> >> >> Has anyone made the 3.25 inch hole in the canopy for snap in air vents? >> I would like to know what is the best method to use to do this given that >> one can not do it in a drill press. The plastic is under a slight stress so >> the idea of using a normal hole saw seems a bit risky. I worry about a crack >> forming in the plastic and quickly growing. >> >> -- >> Mark Hubelbank >> NorthEast Monitoring >> 2 Clock Tower Place >> Suite 555 >> Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA >> mhubel@nemon.com >> 978-443-3955 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- Mark Hubelbank NorthEast Monitoring 2 Clock Tower Place Suite 555 Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA mhubel@nemon.com 978-443-3955


    Message 2


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    Time: 10:33:21 AM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Air vent mount
    Remember there are hole saws (cylinder with multiple teeth) and fly cutters (adjustable arm with a single cutting tooth like a lathe tool): http://www.osborneatelier.com/images/T004_fly_cutter.JPG -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hubelbank Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:54 AM Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Air vent mount Thanks to all who have replied. It sounds like a toss up between the hand operated hole saw and a dremmel tool with a hole adapter. I assume the trick with a hole saw is to cut very slowly using very little pressure. That sounds safe enough. On 07/25/2010 12:58 PM, Rick Lindstrom wrote: > --> Zenith601-List message posted by: Rick > --> Lindstrom<tigerrick@mindspring.com> > > Rich Vetterli did his by using a hole saw, turned by hand from both sides, centered on a .25" hole from a plexi drill. It took awhile, but it did turn out nicely, and there were no cracks. > > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: Craig Payne<craig@craigandjean.com> >> Sent: Jul 25, 2010 12:22 PM >> To: zenith601-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Air vent mount >> >> --> Zenith601-List message posted by: "Craig >> --> Payne"<craig@craigandjean.com> >> >> I watched Doug Dugger at Quality Sport Planes cut the hole in his >> 601XL canopy. He did it by manually turning a hand-held fly cutter. >> As I recall he used WD-40 as a lubricant. It might help to cut from >> both sides, I can't recall. >> >> -- Craig >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark >> Hubelbank >> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:23 AM >> To: zenith601-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Zenith601-List: Air vent mount >> >> --> Zenith601-List message posted by: Mark >> --> Hubelbank<mhubel@nemon.com> >> >> Has anyone made the 3.25 inch hole in the canopy for snap in air vents? >> I would like to know what is the best method to use to do this given >> that one can not do it in a drill press. The plastic is under a >> slight stress so the idea of using a normal hole saw seems a bit >> risky. I worry about a crack forming in the plastic and quickly growing. >> >> -- >> Mark Hubelbank >> NorthEast Monitoring >> 2 Clock Tower Place >> Suite 555 >> Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA >> mhubel@nemon.com >> 978-443-3955 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- Mark Hubelbank NorthEast Monitoring 2 Clock Tower Place Suite 555 Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA mhubel@nemon.com 978-443-3955


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    Time: 01:32:57 PM PST US
    From: Mark Hubelbank <mhubel@nemon.com>
    Subject: Re: Air vent mount
    Craig. I do have both. My conclusion is that fly cutters are only to be used when nothing else will work, and in a drill press and if you can't find any way to avoid it. On 07/26/2010 1:32 PM, Craig Payne wrote: > --> Zenith601-List message posted by: "Craig Payne"<craig@craigandjean.com> > > Remember there are hole saws (cylinder with multiple teeth) and fly cutters > (adjustable arm with a single cutting tooth like a lathe tool): > > http://www.osborneatelier.com/images/T004_fly_cutter.JPG > > -- Craig > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark > Hubelbank > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:54 AM > To: zenith601-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Air vent mount > > --> Zenith601-List message posted by: Mark Hubelbank<mhubel@nemon.com> > > Thanks to all who have replied. > > It sounds like a toss up between the hand operated hole saw and a dremmel > tool with a hole adapter. I assume the trick with a hole saw is to cut very > slowly using very little pressure. That sounds safe enough. > > On 07/25/2010 12:58 PM, Rick Lindstrom wrote: > >> --> Zenith601-List message posted by: Rick >> --> Lindstrom<tigerrick@mindspring.com> >> >> Rich Vetterli did his by using a hole saw, turned by hand from both sides, >> > centered on a .25" hole from a plexi drill. It took awhile, but it did turn > out nicely, and there were no cracks. > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >>> From: Craig Payne<craig@craigandjean.com> >>> Sent: Jul 25, 2010 12:22 PM >>> To: zenith601-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Air vent mount >>> >>> --> Zenith601-List message posted by: "Craig >>> --> Payne"<craig@craigandjean.com> >>> >>> I watched Doug Dugger at Quality Sport Planes cut the hole in his >>> 601XL canopy. He did it by manually turning a hand-held fly cutter. >>> As I recall he used WD-40 as a lubricant. It might help to cut from >>> both sides, I can't recall. >>> >>> -- Craig >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark >>> Hubelbank >>> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:23 AM >>> To: zenith601-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Zenith601-List: Air vent mount >>> >>> --> Zenith601-List message posted by: Mark >>> --> Hubelbank<mhubel@nemon.com> >>> >>> Has anyone made the 3.25 inch hole in the canopy for snap in air vents? >>> I would like to know what is the best method to use to do this given >>> that one can not do it in a drill press. The plastic is under a >>> slight stress so the idea of using a normal hole saw seems a bit >>> risky. I worry about a crack forming in the plastic and quickly growing. >>> >>> -- >>> Mark Hubelbank >>> NorthEast Monitoring >>> 2 Clock Tower Place >>> Suite 555 >>> Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA >>> mhubel@nemon.com >>> 978-443-3955 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- > Mark Hubelbank > NorthEast Monitoring > 2 Clock Tower Place > Suite 555 > Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA > mhubel@nemon.com > 978-443-3955 > > > -- Mark Hubelbank NorthEast Monitoring 2 Clock Tower Place Suite 555 Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA mhubel@nemon.com 978-443-3955


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    Time: 01:48:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Air vent mount
    From: jaybannist@cs.com
    Mark, The only way to use a fly cutter, either on thin aluminum or acrylic plast ic is to hold and turn it by hand. It takes a LONG time with either mater ial, but it will work. Jay -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hubelbank <mhubel@nemon.com> Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 3:32 pm Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Air vent mount Craig. I do have both. My conclusion is that fly cutters are only to be used when nothing else will work, and in a drill press and if you can't find any way to avoid it.


    Message 5


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    Time: 02:08:23 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Air vent mount
    OK, just remember that I'm talking about turning it in your hand, not chucked in a hand drill. I agree that a fly cutter in a hand drill is a recipe for disaster. But when I saw Doug use it as a hand tool for his vent it did the job with no fuss or cracking. -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hubelbank Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Air vent mount Craig. I do have both. My conclusion is that fly cutters are only to be used when nothing else will work, and in a drill press and if you can't find any way to avoid it. On 07/26/2010 1:32 PM, Craig Payne wrote: > --> Zenith601-List message posted by: "Craig > --> Payne"<craig@craigandjean.com> > > Remember there are hole saws (cylinder with multiple teeth) and fly > cutters (adjustable arm with a single cutting tooth like a lathe tool): > > http://www.osborneatelier.com/images/T004_fly_cutter.JPG > > -- Craig > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark > Hubelbank > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:54 AM > To: zenith601-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Air vent mount > > --> Zenith601-List message posted by: Mark > --> Hubelbank<mhubel@nemon.com> > > Thanks to all who have replied. > > It sounds like a toss up between the hand operated hole saw and a > dremmel tool with a hole adapter. I assume the trick with a hole saw > is to cut very slowly using very little pressure. That sounds safe enough. > > On 07/25/2010 12:58 PM, Rick Lindstrom wrote: > >> --> Zenith601-List message posted by: Rick >> --> Lindstrom<tigerrick@mindspring.com> >> >> Rich Vetterli did his by using a hole saw, turned by hand from both >> sides, >> > centered on a .25" hole from a plexi drill. It took awhile, but it did > turn out nicely, and there were no cracks. > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >>> From: Craig Payne<craig@craigandjean.com> >>> Sent: Jul 25, 2010 12:22 PM >>> To: zenith601-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Air vent mount >>> >>> --> Zenith601-List message posted by: "Craig >>> --> Payne"<craig@craigandjean.com> >>> >>> I watched Doug Dugger at Quality Sport Planes cut the hole in his >>> 601XL canopy. He did it by manually turning a hand-held fly cutter. >>> As I recall he used WD-40 as a lubricant. It might help to cut from >>> both sides, I can't recall. >>> >>> -- Craig >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark >>> Hubelbank >>> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:23 AM >>> To: zenith601-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Zenith601-List: Air vent mount >>> >>> --> Zenith601-List message posted by: Mark >>> --> Hubelbank<mhubel@nemon.com> >>> >>> Has anyone made the 3.25 inch hole in the canopy for snap in air vents? >>> I would like to know what is the best method to use to do this given >>> that one can not do it in a drill press. The plastic is under a >>> slight stress so the idea of using a normal hole saw seems a bit >>> risky. I worry about a crack forming in the plastic and quickly growing. >>> >>> -- >>> Mark Hubelbank >>> NorthEast Monitoring >>> 2 Clock Tower Place >>> Suite 555 >>> Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA >>> mhubel@nemon.com >>> 978-443-3955 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- > Mark Hubelbank > NorthEast Monitoring > 2 Clock Tower Place > Suite 555 > Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA > mhubel@nemon.com > 978-443-3955 > > > -- Mark Hubelbank NorthEast Monitoring 2 Clock Tower Place Suite 555 Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA mhubel@nemon.com 978-443-3955




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