---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/16/10: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:45 AM - Sensenich G/A composite prop AD (chris Sinfield) 2. 09:57 AM - XL Center section (Lee Steensland) 3. 10:35 AM - Re: XL Center section () 4. 10:36 AM - Re: XL Center section (Paul Mulwitz) 5. 10:48 AM - Re: XL Center section (Craig Payne) 6. 11:48 AM - Re: XL Center section (Rick Lindstrom) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:45:54 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Sensenich G/A composite prop AD From: "chris Sinfield" Anyone know any more about this? My prop is brand new still in the box and they want me to now look for cracks as soon as I use it.. Should I just return it and see if I can get my money back? Sensenich issued a service bulletin on their props for Jabiru last month, did you see that? http://www.sensenich.com/files/ documents/ Service_Bulletin s_Composite_ Jabiru_Blade_ Service_Bulletin _SB-10-07- 21_1279986506. pdf Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=308969#308969 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:57:17 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: XL Center section From: Lee Steensland Folks, This weekend I got enough solid rivets in the center section that I can call it "done". However I have two lingering questions. 1. Did people that have completed it put washers under the heads as well as the nuts of the AN4 bolts? Or just the nuts? I have almost a full thread showing with a washer under the head and nut. 2. How tight is the fit of the upgraded wing spar in the upgraded center section. I tried to do a test fit and the top seems awful tight, like needed-to-pry-the-halves-apart-a-bit so the top part of the spar would fit. I'm > < close to calling zenith and just ordering an upgraded center section. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:35:32 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: XL Center section Lee, you may want to talk it over with Zenith before ordering. As I recall, they pre-fit each set of spars and carry-through, and mixed parts may not necessarily fit together. Paul R ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee Steensland To: zenith601-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:56 AM Subject: Zenith601-List: XL Center section > Folks, This weekend I got enough solid rivets in the center section that I can call it "done". However I have two lingering questions. 1. Did people that have completed it put washers under the heads as well as the nuts of the AN4 bolts? Or just the nuts? I have almost a full thread showing with a washer under the head and nut. 2. How tight is the fit of the upgraded wing spar in the upgraded center section. I tried to do a test fit and the top seems awful tight, like needed-to-pry-the-halves-apart-a-bit so the top part of the spar would fit. I'm > < close to calling zenith and just ordering an upgraded center section. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:36:13 AM PST US From: "Paul Mulwitz" Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: XL Center section Hi Lee, I think the primary purpose of washers with bolts is to adjust the length of bolt required. I believe you should always have at least 2 threads showing after tightening the nut. I don't think there is any reason to use washers with solid rivets. Indeed I have never heard of anyone doing that. Sometimes there is a need to add a layer of metal to make up for an irregular hole, but that is usually larger than a washer. Paul XL working on upgrade of second wing. -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lee Steensland Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: Zenith601-List: XL Center section Folks, This weekend I got enough solid rivets in the center section that I can call it "done". However I have two lingering questions. 1. Did people that have completed it put washers under the heads as well as the nuts of the AN4 bolts? Or just the nuts? I have almost a full thread showing with a washer under the head and nut. 2. How tight is the fit of the upgraded wing spar in the upgraded center section. I tried to do a test fit and the top seems awful tight, like needed-to-pry-the-halves-apart-a-bit so the top part of the spar would fit. I'm > < close to calling zenith and just ordering an upgraded center section. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:48:44 AM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: XL Center section They matched the parts for a while (the wing and center spars in my QBK all have matching serial number plates). But I recall being told at a later time that this was no longer necessary. But I bet it depends on the vintage of your spars. -- Craig _____ From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of paulrod36@msn.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:33 AM Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: XL Center section Lee, you may want to talk it over with Zenith before ordering. As I recall, they pre-fit each set of spars and carry-through, and mixed parts may not necessarily fit together. Paul R ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee Steensland Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:56 AM Subject: Zenith601-List: XL Center section Folks, This weekend I got enough solid rivets in the center section that I can call it "done". However I have two lingering questions. 1. Did people that have completed it put washers under the heads as well as the nuts of the AN4 bolts? Or just the nuts? I have almost a full thread showing with a washer under the head and nut. 2. How tight is the fit of the upgraded wing spar in the upgraded center section. I tried to do a test fit and the top seems awful tight, like needed-to-pry-the-halves-apart-a-bit so the top part of the spar would fit. I'm > < close to calling zenith and just ordering an upgraded Features Chat, http://www.matnbsp; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; title=http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c==== =========== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:32 AM PST US From: Rick Lindstrom Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: XL Center section Sounds like you're doing everything right, Lee. I have one washer under the nut on the AN4s, nothing more. And yes, it IS a tight fit, and you may have to spread the spar a bit to get the wing stub end to nest. Rick Lindstrom Zenvair N42KP -----Original Message----- >From: Lee Steensland >Sent: Aug 16, 2010 9:56 AM >To: zenith601-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith601-List: XL Center section > > >Folks, > >This weekend I got enough solid rivets in the center section that I can >call it "done". However I have two lingering questions. > >1. Did people that have completed it put washers under the heads as well >as the nuts of the AN4 bolts? Or just the nuts? I have almost a full >thread showing with a washer under the head and nut. > >2. How tight is the fit of the upgraded wing spar in the upgraded center >section. I tried to do a test fit and the top seems awful tight, like >needed-to-pry-the-halves-apart-a-bit so the top part of the spar would >fit. > >I'm > < close to calling zenith and just ordering an upgraded center >section. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith601-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith601-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith601-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith601-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.