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1. 10:23 AM - Air Speed Markings (MHerder)
2. 10:35 AM - Re: Air Speed Markings (Craig Payne)
3. 10:42 AM - Re: Air Speed Markings (Bill Steer)
4. 10:42 AM - Re: Air Speed Markings (jaybannist@cs.com)
5. 11:16 AM - Help ! (jaybannist@cs.com)
6. 12:55 PM - Re: Help ! (Mark Hubelbank)
7. 03:53 PM - Re: Air Speed Markings (vvkidd@mindspring.com)
8. 04:24 PM - Re: Help ! (Jeff)
9. 05:49 PM - Re: Help ! (Larry McFarland)
10. 06:03 PM - Re: Help ! (Bryan Martin)
11. 06:35 PM - Re: Help ! (jaybannist@cs.com)
12. 07:28 PM - Re: Help ! (Jeff)
13. 08:25 PM - Re: Air Speed Markings (MHerder)
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| Subject: | Air Speed Markings |
What type of tape, or what did you use to mark your airspeeds on your steam gauge
type AS indicator? Red Vne, Yellow Va, Green ??
Is there a special product for this?
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| Subject: | Air Speed Markings |
Spruce sells it:
OPERATING RANGE VINYL DECALS 10-03905 $2.95
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MHerder
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:22 AM
Subject: Zenith601-List: Air Speed Markings
--> <michaelherder@beckgroup.com>
What type of tape, or what did you use to mark your airspeeds on your steam
gauge type AS indicator? Red Vne, Yellow Va, Green ??
Is there a special product for this?
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| Subject: | Re: Air Speed Markings |
I used Wag-Aero part number A-005-199. $4.75.
Bill
On 8/25/2010 1:22 PM, MHerder wrote:
> --> Zenith601-List message posted by: "MHerder"<michaelherder@beckgroup.com>
>
> What type of tape, or what did you use to mark your airspeeds on your steam gauge
type AS indicator? Red Vne, Yellow Va, Green ??
>
> Is there a special product for this?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air Speed Markings |
Mike,
I ordered a kit from Aircraft Spruce. It has everything needed, except th
e patience required. I later ran the red not-to-exceed line clear over
the bezel at the request of my DAR.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: MHerder <michaelherder@beckgroup.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 25, 2010 12:22 pm
Subject: Zenith601-List: Air Speed Markings
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What type of tape, or what did you use to mark your airspeeds on your stea
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gauge type AS indicator? Red Vne, Yellow Va, Green ??
Is there a special product for this?
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I need your help.
My airplane, N2630J, "Lil Bruiser", a Zodiac 601XL with a William Wynne Co
rvair engine, was a certified (E-AB), well mannered, flying airplane. In
an off-airport landing, it struck a berm, bending t the nose gear strut,
firewall, cabin floor and cowling. The prop was stopped in the horizonta
l position, so the prop nor engine suffered damage. It is now hangared at
Hicks Airfield near Fort Worth, Texas.
Because of my physical condition, I am no longer able to fly, so I know th
at I will never fly this airplane. Consequently, as you might guess, I
have no motivation to repair it myself; and would like to sell it to some
one who will fly it..
I have invested around $50,000 in the airplane and I am willing to sell it
for $20,000. It will require about $3,000 in parts to repair. So for arou
nd $23,000 (less than the cost of a 650 kit and an engine) and around 300
hours of work, a person could have one sweet $50,000 airplane in a relati
vely short period of time.
I have the XLB upgrade kit, still in the shipping containers that will be
furnished to a buyer.
My questions are:
Is trying to sell the airplane as is, where is, reasonable?
If so, how is the best way to go about finding a buyer?
If not, should I consider selling parts, or just sell the whole thing to
the salvage yard?
Thanks for your help in advance,
Jay Bannister
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Jay,
I would think your best bet it to sell it as is. Since it has flown
and has an airworthness certificate, it should be worth more as a package.
I also once damaged the nose wheel and had to streighten up some
other metal. It turned out not to be as big a job as was expected. Most
of the critical (read not easily replaced) parts could be fixed in
place. Everything that needed to be replaced was done in perhaps 50 hours.
I understand that Flight Crafters in Zephyrhills 813-690-1916 will
do the upgrade at a very reasonable price. He is also likely to do the
repair. I would ask for a ball park estimate. He will probably want a
bunch of pictures. He can call me if desired about the issue of this
particular repair. Then advertise it as is but show the estimates to
make it flyable again.
One thing I would do while waiting is treat the engine for long
term storage.
Good luck.
On 08/25/2010 2:11 PM, jaybannist@cs.com wrote:
> I need your help.
>
> My airplane, N2630J, "Lil Bruiser", a Zodiac 601XL with a William
> Wynne Corvair engine, was a certified (E-AB), well mannered, flying
> airplane. In an off-airport landing, it struck a berm, bending t the
> nose gear strut, firewall, cabin floor and cowling. The prop was
> stopped in the horizontal position, so the prop nor engine suffered
> damage. It is now hangared at Hicks Airfield near Fort Worth, Texas.
>
> Because of my physical condition, I am no longer able to fly, so I
> know that I will never fly this airplane. Consequently, as you might
> guess, I have no motivation to repair it myself; and would like to
> sell it to someone who will fly it..
>
> I have invested around $50,000 in the airplane and I am willing to
> sell it for $20,000. It will require about $3,000 in parts to repair.
> So for around $23,000 (less than the cost of a 650 kit and an engine)
> and around 300 hours of work, a person could have one sweet $50,000
> airplane in a relatively short period of time.
>
> I have the XLB upgrade kit, still in the shipping containers that will
> be furnished to a buyer.
>
> My questions are:
>
> Is trying to sell the airplane as is, where is, reasonable?
>
> If so, how is the best way to go about finding a buyer?
>
> If not, should I consider selling parts, or just sell the whole thing
> to the salvage yard?
>
> Thanks for your help in advance,
>
> Jay Bannister
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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Mark Hubelbank
NorthEast Monitoring
2 Clock Tower Place
Suite 555
Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA
mhubel@nemon.com
978-443-3955
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| Subject: | Air Speed Markings |
Check Aircraft Spruce for IAS marking tape.
Victor Kidd
-----Original Message-----
>From: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
>Sent: Aug 25, 2010 1:32 PM
>To: zenith601-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Air Speed Markings
>
>
>Spruce sells it:
>
>OPERATING RANGE VINYL DECALS 10-03905 $2.95
>
>-- Craig
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MHerder
>Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:22 AM
>To: zenith601-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith601-List: Air Speed Markings
>
>--> <michaelherder@beckgroup.com>
>
>What type of tape, or what did you use to mark your airspeeds on your steam
>gauge type AS indicator? Red Vne, Yellow Va, Green ??
>
>Is there a special product for this?
>
>--------
>One Rivet at a Time!
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=310106#310106
>
>
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Jay,
Here is something to think about. Assuming that you have the
Repairman Certificate for this plane, it would be much cheaper for the next
owner if you repaired the plane and signed it off. Otherwise, the next
owner will have to get an A&P involved. So the A&P is extra cost that
reduces the value of your aircraft. Also, right now is not exactly a
sellers market for airplanes. If you put it back into flying shape, it also
will be much more attractive to a buyer and you could charge the market
price. That is very likely to be more than what you are asking now.
Jeff D
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From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jaybannist@cs.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 2:12 PM
corvaircraft@mylist.net
Subject: Zenith601-List: Help !
I need your help.
My airplane, N2630J, "Lil Bruiser", a Zodiac 601XL with a William Wynne
Corvair engine, was a certified (E-AB), well mannered, flying airplane. In
an off-airport landing, it struck a berm, bending t the nose gear strut,
firewall, cabin floor and cowling. The prop was stopped in the horizontal
position, so the prop nor engine suffered damage. It is now hangared at
Hicks Airfield near Fort Worth, Texas.
Because of my physical condition, I am no longer able to fly, so I know that
I will never fly this airplane. Consequently, as you might guess, I have
no motivation to repair it myself; and would like to sell it to someone who
will fly it.. do not archive
I have invested around $50,000 in the airplane and I am willing to sell it
for $20,000. It will require about $3,000 in parts to repair. So for around
$23,000 (less than the cost of a 650 kit and an engine) and around 300 hours
of work, a person could have one sweet $50,000 airplane in a relatively
short period of time.
I have the XLB upgrade kit, still in the shipping containers that will be
furnished to a buyer.
My questions are:
Is trying to sell the airplane as is, where is, reasonable?
If so, how is the best way to go about finding a buyer?
If not, should I consider selling parts, or just sell the whole thing to the
salvage yard?
Thanks for your help in advance,
Jay Bannister
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Jay,
I think you'd be wise to advertise it at some of the free sites, your
nearest EAA Chapter newsletter and try to sell it as a rebuild. I don't
think it would take too long for
someone to realize the value of your aircraft. It sounds like a good
deal to me, so someone will probably jump in and buy it. Give it a few
weeks.
Best regards,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
jaybannist@cs.com wrote:
> I need your help.
>
> My airplane, N2630J, "Lil Bruiser", a Zodiac 601XL with a William
> Wynne Corvair engine, was a certified (E-AB), well mannered, flying
> airplane. In an off-airport landing, it struck a berm, bending t the
> nose gear strut, firewall, cabin floor and cowling. The prop was
> stopped in the horizontal position, so the prop nor engine suffered
> damage. It is now hangared at Hicks Airfield near Fort Worth, Texas.
>
> Because of my physical condition, I am no longer able to fly, so I
> know that I will never fly this airplane. Consequently, as you might
> guess, I have no motivation to repair it myself; and would like to
> sell it to someone who will fly it..
>
> I have invested around $50,000 in the airplane and I am willing to
> sell it for $20,000. It will require about $3,000 in parts to repair.
> So for around $23,000 (less than the cost of a 650 kit and an engine)
> and around 300 hours of work, a person could have one sweet $50,000
> airplane in a relatively short period of time.
>
> I have the XLB upgrade kit, still in the shipping containers that will
> be furnished to a buyer.
>
> My questions are:
>
> Is trying to sell the airplane as is, where is, reasonable?
>
> If so, how is the best way to go about finding a buyer?
>
> If not, should I consider selling parts, or just sell the whole thing
> to the salvage yard?
>
> Thanks for your help in advance,
>
> Jay Bannister
>
>
> *
> *
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Anybody can make the repairs to this airplane, the repairman certificate is only
required to sign off the annual condition inspection. In this case, the new
owner could do all of the repairs and Jay might offer to inspect the work and
sign it off as part of the deal.
On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Jeff wrote:
> Jay,
> Here is something to think about. Assuming that you have the Repairman
Certificate for this plane, it would be much cheaper for the next owner if you
repaired the plane and signed it off. Otherwise, the next owner will have to
get an A&P involved. So the A&P is extra cost that reduces the value of your
aircraft. Also, right now is not exactly a sellers market for airplanes. If
you put it back into flying shape, it also will be much more attractive to a
buyer and you could charge the market price. That is very likely to be more
than what you are asking now.
> Jeff D
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus re-drive.
do not archive.
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Bryan,
You are correct. If my airplane were repaired by a new owner, there would
be no need to involve an A&P. I do have a Repairman's Certificate and wo
uld offer to do a condition inspection after the repairs are completed. Th
e original operating limitations would still apply, except for the Phase
1 test area, which would come from the local FSDO. .
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 25, 2010 8:02 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Help !
et>
Anybody can make the repairs to this airplane, the repairman certificate
is only
required to sign off the annual condition inspection. In this case, the ne
w
owner could do all of the repairs and Jay might offer to inspect the work
and
sign it off as part of the deal.
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That is certainly correct Bryan. I just don't think that I would want to do
that, but Jay might.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Help !
<bryanmmartin@comcast.net> do not archive
Anybody can make the repairs to this airplane, the repairman certificate is
only required to sign off the annual condition inspection. In this case, the
new owner could do all of the repairs and Jay might offer to inspect the
work and sign it off as part of the deal.
On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Jeff wrote:
> Jay,
> Here is something to think about. Assuming that you have the
Repairman Certificate for this plane, it would be much cheaper for the next
owner if you repaired the plane and signed it off. Otherwise, the next
owner will have to get an A&P involved. So the A&P is extra cost that
reduces the value of your aircraft. Also, right now is not exactly a
sellers market for airplanes. If you put it back into flying shape, it also
will be much more attractive to a buyer and you could charge the market
price. That is very likely to be more than what you are asking now.
> Jeff D
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus re-drive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Air Speed Markings |
Thanks all. I figured spruce would have something.
Their search function on their website is pretty weak though. I searched it about
15 different ways, and didn't find anything similar.
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