---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/16/10: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:48 AM - Turnbuckle Location (MHerder) 2. 07:01 AM - Re: Turnbuckle Location (Jim Belcher) 3. 07:25 AM - Re: Turnbuckle Location (jaybannist@cs.com) 4. 07:25 AM - Re: Turnbuckle Location (Leroy Wheeler) 5. 07:49 AM - Re: Turnbuckle Location (trainnut01@aol.com) 6. 08:41 AM - Re: Turnbuckle Location (Bill Steer) 7. 11:22 AM - Re: Turnbuckle Location (Don Honabach) 8. 12:38 PM - Re: Turnbuckle Location (Jerry) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:03 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Turnbuckle Location From: "MHerder" Is there any reason I can't reverse the location of the turnbuckle on my upper elevator control cable. The drawings show it located at the bottom of my y control stick. I'd like to put it under my removable fiberglass saddle attaching directly to the upper horn to make it much easier to adjust. Doesn't sound like fun trying to safety wire in that tight space. -------- One Rivet at a Time! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312615#312615 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:20 AM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Turnbuckle Location On Thursday 16 September 2010 08:44:50 you wrote: > > > Is there any reason I can't reverse the location of the turnbuckle on my > upper elevator control cable. The drawings show it located at the bottom > of my y control stick. I'd like to put it under my removable fiberglass > saddle attaching directly to the upper horn to make it much easier to > adjust. Doesn't sound like fun trying to safety wire in that tight space. I don't have the "Y" stick, but the turnbuckles are just as awkward for the dual stick design. I did pretty much what you're suggesting, and also moved some of the other turnbuckles. It seems to me that the turnbuckles, and perhaps a few other things, are not located where they can be adjusted as easily as is desirable. ======================================= Jim B. Belcher BS,MS Physics, Math, Computer Science A&P/IA General Radio Telephone Certificate Instrument Rated Pilot Retired Aerospace Technical Manager ======================================= ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:05 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Turnbuckle Location From: jaybannist@cs.com Mike, That is where I put mine. It only makes good sense, for the reasons you point out. . I forgot to cotter the castle nut at the bottom connection in the arm rest tunnel. It was impossible for me to install it and I pla nned to put an access panel in the floor panel. Doug Eady came to my resc ue and installed the cotter from above. It still seemed impossible for me . I also made the rudder fairing saddle removable. Jay -----Original Message----- From: MHerder Sent: Thu, Sep 16, 2010 8:44 am Subject: Zenith601-List: Turnbuckle Location om> Is there any reason I can't reverse the location of the turnbuckle on my upper elevator control cable. The drawings show it located at the bottom of my y control stick. I'd like to put it under my removable fiberglass saddle attaching directly to the upper horn to make it much easier to adjust. Do esn't sound like fun trying to safety wire in that tight space. -------- One Rivet at a Time! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312615#312615 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:08 AM PST US From: "Leroy Wheeler" Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Turnbuckle Location That's the way we did it. We've got 100 hours on our 601HD without a hint of trouble. Leroy Wheeler -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Belcher Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Turnbuckle Location On Thursday 16 September 2010 08:44:50 you wrote: > > > Is there any reason I can't reverse the location of the turnbuckle on my > upper elevator control cable. The drawings show it located at the bottom > of my y control stick. I'd like to put it under my removable fiberglass > saddle attaching directly to the upper horn to make it much easier to > adjust. Doesn't sound like fun trying to safety wire in that tight space. I don't have the "Y" stick, but the turnbuckles are just as awkward for the dual stick design. I did pretty much what you're suggesting, and also moved some of the other turnbuckles. It seems to me that the turnbuckles, and perhaps a few other things, are not located where they can be adjusted as easily as is desirable. ======================================= Jim B. Belcher BS,MS Physics, Math, Computer Science A&P/IA General Radio Telephone Certificate Instrument Rated Pilot Retired Aerospace Technical Manager ======================================= Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 14:34:00 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:34 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Turnbuckle Location From: trainnut01@aol.com I put mine in the rear fuselage,as close to the fairleads as possible with out interfering with anything. They are all accessible through the bottom h atch. Carroll -----Original Message----- From: MHerder Sent: Thu, Sep 16, 2010 9:48 am Subject: Zenith601-List: Turnbuckle Location m> Is there any reason I can't reverse the location of the turnbuckle on my up per elevator control cable. The drawings show it located at the bottom of my y control stick. I'd like to put it under my removable fiberglass saddle attaching directly to the upper horn to make it much easier to adjust. Doe sn't sound like fun trying to safety wire in that tight space. -------- One Rivet at a Time! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312615#312615 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:03 AM PST US From: Bill Steer Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Turnbuckle Location That's what I did and I'm glad I did it since I've had to adjust the elevator control twice now. I used a clip-locking turnbuckle there - much easier than the ones that use safety wire. Bill On 9/16/2010 9:44 AM, MHerder wrote: > --> Zenith601-List message posted by: "MHerder" > > Is there any reason I can't reverse the location of the turnbuckle on my upper elevator control cable. The drawings show it located at the bottom of my y control stick. I'd like to put it under my removable fiberglass saddle attaching directly to the upper horn to make it much easier to adjust. Doesn't sound like fun trying to safety wire in that tight space. > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:22:29 AM PST US From: Don Honabach Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Turnbuckle Location >> Doesn't sound like fun trying to safety wire in that tight space. I've got some turnbuckles installed that would be difficult to impossible t o use the safety wire on - for instance at the front of rudder pedals and i n the center console area for the elevator that you mentioned. I'd highly r ecommend going with the clip locking turnbuckles over the safety wire ones - easy to adjust no matter what the location sort of thing and far quicker/ easier to deal with in general. I personally don't like the adjustable bits of the plane on the "outside", but I can't see any reason not to - just make sure if the cable shakes or t he distance it will be traveling doesn't cause it to run/catch on anything. Don 601HDS - 150 Hours - Jabiru 3300A From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Steer Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:36 AM Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Turnbuckle Location That's what I did and I'm glad I did it since I've had to adjust the elevat or control twice now. I used a clip-locking turnbuckle there - much easier than the ones that use safety wire. Bill On 9/16/2010 9:44 AM, MHerder wrote: m> Is there any reason I can't reverse the location of the turnbuckle on my up per elevator control cable. The drawings show it located at the bottom of my y control stick. I'd like to put it under my removable fiberglass saddl e attaching directly to the upper horn to make it much easier to adjust. D oesn't sound like fun trying to safety wire in that tight space. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:38:21 PM PST US From: Jerry Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Turnbuckle Location Mike, I had the same concerns. I installed my upper elevator turnbuckle where you proposed. 30 hours on the plane and no problems. Jerry 601HDS 912 N316JL ---- MHerder wrote: > > Is there any reason I can't reverse the location of the turnbuckle on my upper elevator control cable. The drawings show it located at the bottom of my y control stick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith601-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith601-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith601-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith601-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.