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| Subject:  | Flap Switch Wiring | 
      
      
      Does any one have a diagram of the new flap actuator switch wiring positions. 
      The plans only show the old type with the limit switches attached.
      
      Thank you
      
      Ian Ratcliffe
      
      CH601XL.     :D
      
      
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| Subject:  | Flap Switch Wiring | 
      
      Just wire it as a polarity reversing switch. Use a DPDT switch with a center
      off position. The up and down positions should be non-latching (momentary).
      Sometimes denoted as (on)-off-(on). Wiring here:
      
      http://www.1728.com/dpdt.gif from http://www.1728.com/project2.htm
      
      The right switch from B&C would be an S700-2-7.
      
      I've attached an image from the AeroElectric book but you may only be able
      to see it if you go to the Matronics web version of the list.
      
      -- Craig
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ianrat
      Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 2:01 PM
      Subject: Zenith601-List: Flap Switch Wiring
      
      
      Does any one have a diagram of the new flap actuator switch wiring
      positions. 
      The plans only show the old type with the limit switches attached.
      
      Thank you
      
      Ian Ratcliffe
      
      CH601XL.     :D
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319352#319352
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aileron gap seal. | 
      
      I will like to give my point of view about this matter...-- For me now 
      flying my 701 and (hope) soon the 601 XLB...-- My idea of a clean airpl
      ane is not related with more top speed.
      -
      I fly to enjoy my flight, is useless to get there faster,- just take off 
      half an hour sooner and you save a lot of gas and time, same fun-:-)-
      - 
      -
      My idea of "cleaning" is more-to have a better range- and saving a few 
      bucks in gas is a bonus.- we redesigned the cowling of-our 701 and got
      -a few mph in cruise (from 84 to around 92 mph) at 5,100 rpms-the flyin
      g range has improved and the handling keeps great...- Now we have a much 
      better 701, we used to have a wonderfull 701 :-)
      -
      I also think that we never finish working on our airplanes...- "cleaning"
       the plane is a better alternative to "adding goodies" and of course weight
      .- 
      Go ahead with the work,- time with the airplane is always rewarding.
      -
      Also a forgoten point...- improve-our flying skills,- some pilots mig
      ht -fly a little uncordinated (ball not exactly centered) or a "click" ou
      t of trim...- this generates a lttle drag and of course reduces speed- 
      (how much? dont know).
      -
      Back to working...
      -
      Gary Gower
      (Racers build Lancairs :-)
      
      --- On Thu, 11/11/10, paulrod36@msn.com <paulrod36@msn.com> wrote:
      
      
      From: paulrod36@msn.com <paulrod36@msn.com>
      Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Aileron gap seal
      
      
      It is a pretty clean plane, and wheel pants would help, but your prop pitch
       has a lot to do with it, also. Generally, you get either good climbouts or
       good cruise, but rarely both with a fixed-pitch prop. There's a ton of tal
      ent and experience on this net, and I'm sure somebody will have your engine
      /prop combo, and has probably dealt with the problem. I think there's gener
      al agreement that wheelpants will give you some additional knots, and a few
       tweaks, assuming you have a ground-adjustable prop, might very well do it 
      for you.- Frankly, I'm envious of anyone whose plane is done. Whenever I 
      get done, I may name it "Great Pyramid", or "Great Wall", or anything else 
      that took years, and years, and years, and.... well, you get the idea.- H
      ang in there.
      -
      Paul R
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Mark Hubelbank 
      Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:13 PM
      Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Aileron gap seal
      
      Paul,
      --- Interesting that you say it is a "slick plane", I find that I hit
       a speed wall at about 120 MPH. Even with the 120 HP Jabiru 3300 on it, get
      ting much above 120 MPH is a very high throttle process and above 130 MPH i
      s very full throttle.
      --- Granted I don't have wheel pants on it yet but I did expect bette
      r. When I built it, I thought I could reasonable expect 115-120 knots (138 
      MPH) in cruse with the Jabiru 3300 working at 75%.
      --- Are you saying that I should expect it to have less drag than I a
      m experiencing?
      
      On 11/11/2010 12:39 PM, paulrod36@msn.com wrote: 
      
      
      Aileron seals would be a good idea, but, really, their only purpose would b
      e to get you past Vne sooner. Granted, it's a slick, clean- plane as is,
      -but putting speed mods on it would only be gilding the lily.-There's a
      n old Chris Heintz quote, allegedly when someone was arguing some nitpicky 
      construction point: "It's not a space shuttle, it's a tractor."
      -
      Paul R
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: mhubel 
      Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:46 PM
      Subject: Zenith601-List: Aileron gap seal
      
      
      Has anyone looked at the gap on the bottom of the aileron to see how much d
      rag it causes. It would seem that on other aircraft much smaller gaps have 
      been covered to reduce drag with significant results. Any reason it won't w
      ork on the CH601?
      
      --------
      Mark Hubelbank
      N708HU
      CH601XL
      Jabiru 3300
      Rotec TBI 40 carb
      Sensenich ground adj prop.
      41 hr TAF 
      Pictures at photo.hubbles.com
      
      
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