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1. 09:25 PM - Upgrades or lack there of! (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
2. 09:40 PM - Re: Upgrades or lack there of! (Paul Mulwitz)
3. 09:53 PM - Re: Upgrades or lack there of! (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
4. 10:08 PM - Re: Upgrades or lack there of! (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Upgrades or lack there of! |
As many of you know I have been doing upgrades for the past year and have
lost count at this point. But what is the point of doing the upgrade
yourself if you are not skilled enough to do it?
After what I have seen between the aircraft that were brought in to the
shop before the upgrade and one that was brought in after the upgrade I
would venture to say the later would have been safer without the upgrade.
I will be posting photos each day with a caption of what is wrong and how
to spot it for buyers of a flying upgraded 601 XL-B.
These photos aren't being posted to embarrass anyone but to merely show
what could be the next wave of aircraft that should be safer only to be
worse off with the upgrade being installed incorrectly.
The first photo is of the rivets that were bucked incorrectly and will need
to be replaced. Not only were they done incorrectly but some of the old
rivets are still in the holes that were drilled wrong.
Some of these rivet heads have a gap between them and the aluminum.
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| Subject: | Upgrades or lack there of! |
I had a little trouble interpreting the photos so I thought I would ask a
question or two.
The rivets you are concerned about are the bottom row in the picture? I
guess this is a picture of the new spar cap angle riveted to the main spar
and viewed through the wing locker. Is this true? It seems like your
concern is the shape of the shop heads. Is this true?
I am very concerned about your comments. So far, I only get the message you
are concerned about the solid rivets. Are there other problems you have
found?
Your comments make me feel good about my decision to use bolts instead of
solid rivets on my upgrade. I would still like any comments you may have
about any other areas of concern.
Paul
XL still doing the upgrade - finished wings and just finishing the new rear
channel attach brackets (along with reworking the flap torque tube to get
rid of some extra holes that Sabrina refers to as Swiss Cheese).
From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Afterfxllc@aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 9:22 PM
Subject: Zenith601-List: Upgrades or lack there of!
As many of you know I have been doing upgrades for the past year and have
lost count at this point. But what is the point of doing the upgrade
yourself if you are not skilled enough to do it?
After what I have seen between the aircraft that were brought in to the
shop before the upgrade and one that was brought in after the upgrade I
would venture to say the later would have been safer without the upgrade.
I will be posting photos each day with a caption of what is wrong and how
to spot it for buyers of a flying upgraded 601 XL-B.
These photos aren't being posted to embarrass anyone but to merely show
what could be the next wave of aircraft that should be safer only to be
worse off with the upgrade being installed incorrectly.
The first photo is of the rivets that were bucked incorrectly and will need
to be replaced. Not only were they done incorrectly but some of the old
rivets are still in the holes that were drilled wrong.
Some of these rivet heads have a gap between them and the aluminum.
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| Subject: | Re: Upgrades or lack there of! |
Paul
Every part of the upgrade is installed incorrectly..... I can send you the
photo's off everything and you will see my concern. :)
Jeff
In a message dated 12/11/2010 12:42:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
psm@att.net writes:
I had a little trouble interpreting the photos so I thought I would ask a
question or two.
The rivets you are concerned about are the bottom row in the picture? I
guess this is a picture of the new spar cap angle riveted to the main spar
and viewed through the wing locker. Is this true? It seems like your
concern is the shape of the shop heads. Is this true?
I am very concerned about your comments. So far, I only get the message
you are concerned about the solid rivets. Are there other problems you
have found?
Your comments make me feel good about my decision to use bolts instead of
solid rivets on my upgrade. I would still like any comments you may have
about any other areas of concern.
Paul
XL still doing the upgrade - finished wings and just finishing the new
rear channel attach brackets (along with reworking the flap torque tube to get
rid of some extra holes that Sabrina refers to as Swiss Cheese).
From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Afterfxllc@aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 9:22 PM
Subject: Zenith601-List: Upgrades or lack there of!
As many of you know I have been doing upgrades for the past year and have
lost count at this point. But what is the point of doing the upgrade
yourself if you are not skilled enough to do it?
After what I have seen between the aircraft that were brought in to the
shop before the upgrade and one that was brought in after the upgrade I would
venture to say the later would have been safer without the upgrade.
I will be posting photos each day with a caption of what is wrong and how
to spot it for buyers of a flying upgraded 601 XL-B.
These photos aren't being posted to embarrass anyone but to merely show
what could be the next wave of aircraft that should be safer only to be worse
off with the upgrade being installed incorrectly.
The first photo is of the rivets that were bucked incorrectly and will
need to be replaced. Not only were they done incorrectly but some of the old
rivets are still in the holes that were drilled wrong.
Some of these rivet heads have a gap between them and the aluminum.
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| Subject: | Re: Upgrades or lack there of! |
Here is a link to all the photos...
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=39343&id=100000256688371&l=3ecaba3433
They are on face book so you will need a face book profile I think. I would
post them to Zenith Aero but it takes too long.
Jeff
In a message dated 12/11/2010 12:22:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Afterfxllc@aol.com writes:
As many of you know I have been doing upgrades for the past year and have
lost count at this point. But what is the point of doing the upgrade
yourself if you are not skilled enough to do it?
After what I have seen between the aircraft that were brought in to the
shop before the upgrade and one that was brought in after the upgrade I
would venture to say the later would have been safer without the upgrade.
I will be posting photos each day with a caption of what is wrong and how
to spot it for buyers of a flying upgraded 601 XL-B.
These photos aren't being posted to embarrass anyone but to merely show
what could be the next wave of aircraft that should be safer only to be
worse off with the upgrade being installed incorrectly.
The first photo is of the rivets that were bucked incorrectly and will
need to be replaced. Not only were they done incorrectly but some of the old
rivets are still in the holes that were drilled wrong.
Some of these rivet heads have a gap between them and the aluminum.
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