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2. 04:32 PM - Falcon Insurance Agency -- EAA's representative (aprazer)
3. 06:20 PM - Re: Falcon Insurance Agency -- EAA's representative (Bryan Martin)
4. 07:06 PM - Re: Falcon Insurance Agency -- EAA's representative (aprazer)
5. 07:46 PM - Re: Falcon Insurance Agency -- EAA's representative ()
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Subject: | Falcon Insurance Agency -- EAA's representative |
Ladies and Gents,
I'm "mad as hell"!
I hope that you will let me vent my anger on this communiqu.
It'll give you a heads up on what is coming down the pike.
I received my bill from Falcon this date for $1325 for my XL, a $372 increase over
last year. This is an increase of 39.03%!
This policy is a "Not-in Motion" coverage. The fuselage is sitting in my hangar
and the wings are in my garage, 30 miles apart from each other, while undergoing
the modification.
Now, there have been no changes in coverages, no claims, no nothing.
Global is & has been the underwriter.
Talking with Kathleen Ring, Falcon's representative, she states that due to the
high losses with the XLs have experienced (12 or ??) that the rates have gone
up. The other two companies that Falcon represents won't insure a XL unless it
has had the wing mod, whether it is in motion or not.
This just does not make sense -- my bird has not moved under it's own power for
a year and won't anytime in the very near future and they still want a higher
premium.
I asked Ms Ring if she would plead my case with the underwriter -- I received a
negative answer.
Global still insures V-tail Bonanzas, Ercoupes, Tomahawks, etc. all the other aircraft
that have and still break up in flight. You don't hear their owners complain
about outrageous premiums.
Any suggestions?????
Mack, the much poorer ol unemployed farm boy from Idaho
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Subject: | Re: Falcon Insurance Agency -- EAA's representative |
I looked for liability insurance for my 601XL and could not find one that would
write a policy at any price because my airplane has not been modified.
Chip Lennemann from Aerospace Risk Management Group, Inc. was a guest speaker at
my local EAA chapter meeting this month. Just for a lark, I asked him if he
was aware of the problem of obtaining insurance for the 601XL. He asked me to
send him an email with the details about my airplane and my pilot experience.
He checked with six insurers and found me a policy through Chartis for $319 a
year. This is a one million dollar liability policy with no hull coverage.
http://www.avnins.net/
chiplennemann@avnins.net
On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:30 PM, aprazer wrote:
>
> It'll give you a heads up on what is coming down the pike.
>
> I received my bill from Falcon this date for $1325 for my XL, a $372 increase
over last year. This is an increase of 39.03%!
>
> This policy is a "Not-in Motion" coverage. The fuselage is sitting in my hangar
and the wings are in my garage, 30 miles apart from each other, while undergoing
the modification.
>
> Global is & has been the underwriter.
>
> Talking with Kathleen Ring, Falcon's representative, she states that due to the
high losses with the XLs have experienced (12 or ??) that the rates have gone
up. The other two companies that Falcon represents won't insure a XL unless
it has had the wing mod, whether it is in motion or not.
>
> This just does not make sense -- my bird has not moved under it's own power for
a year and won't anytime in the very near future and they still want a higher
premium.
>
> I asked Ms Ring if she would plead my case with the underwriter -- I received
a negative answer.
>
> Global still insures V-tail Bonanzas, Ercoupes, Tomahawks, etc. all the other
aircraft that have and still break up in flight. You don't hear their owners
complain about outrageous premiums.
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus re-drive.
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Subject: | Re: Falcon Insurance Agency -- EAA's representative |
Bryan,
Thank you for the introduction to Aerospace Risk Management Group, Inc...
I have submitted an application this date. Let's see what happens.
Again, thanks.
Mack
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Subject: | Re: Falcon Insurance Agency -- EAA's representative |
Bryan, YOU DA MAN!...Having built our own airplanes, we can rebuild them
for less than a smaller repair at a shop. Like you, all I see need for
is liability, If I break it, I know who can fix it for the cost of
materials and parts.-----I'll remember these guys when it's time.
Paul R
From: Bryan Martin<mailto:bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
To: zenith601-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith601-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Falcon Insurance Agency -- EAA's
representative
<bryanmmartin@comcast.net<mailto:bryanmmartin@comcast.net>>
I looked for liability insurance for my 601XL and could not find one
that would write a policy at any price because my airplane has not been
modified.
Chip Lennemann from Aerospace Risk Management Group, Inc. was a guest
speaker at my local EAA chapter meeting this month. Just for a lark, I
asked him if he was aware of the problem of obtaining insurance for the
601XL. He asked me to send him an email with the details about my
airplane and my pilot experience. He checked with six insurers and found
me a policy through Chartis for $319 a year. This is a one million
dollar liability policy with no hull coverage.
http://www.avnins.net/<http://www.avnins.net/>
chiplennemann@avnins.net<mailto:chiplennemann@avnins.net>
On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:30 PM, aprazer wrote:
>
> It'll give you a heads up on what is coming down the pike.
>
> I received my bill from Falcon this date for $1325 for my XL, a $372
increase over last year. This is an increase of 39.03%!
>
> This policy is a "Not-in Motion" coverage. The fuselage is sitting
in my hangar and the wings are in my garage, 30 miles apart from each
other, while undergoing the modification.
>
> Global is & has been the underwriter.
>
> Talking with Kathleen Ring, Falcon's representative, she states that
due to the high losses with the XLs have experienced (12 or ??) that the
rates have gone up. The other two companies that Falcon represents won't
insure a XL unless it has had the wing mod, whether it is in motion or
not.
>
> This just does not make sense -- my bird has not moved under it's
own power for a year and won't anytime in the very near future and they
still want a higher premium.
>
> I asked Ms Ring if she would plead my case with the underwriter -- I
received a negative answer.
>
> Global still insures V-tail Bonanzas, Ercoupes, Tomahawks, etc. all
the other aircraft that have and still break up in flight. You don't
hear their owners complain about outrageous premiums.
>
--
Bryan Martin
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