Zenith601-List Digest Archive

Mon 05/02/11


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 06:29 AM - Real bolt failure count? (Mark Hubelbank)
     2. 12:26 PM - Re: Re: What a joke (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
     3. 12:41 PM - Re: Real bolt failure count? (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
     4. 02:46 PM - Re: Real bolt failure count? (Thruster87)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:29:14 AM PST US
    From: Mark Hubelbank <mhubel@nemon.com>
    Subject: Real bolt failure count?
    Does anyone really know how many failures have occurred that were not caused by poor maintenance? Pete suggested that there were only three bolt failures. This suggests more. It also begs the question of the need to use Loctite. I would consider the use of Loctite a liability as it increases the risk of not properly torquing the bolts. On 05/02/2011 1:20 AM, Thruster87 wrote: > --> Zenith601-List message posted by: "Thruster87"<alania@optusnet.com.au> > > A local flight training center that has been using Jabiru aircraft for the past 12yrs, swears by the new nut modification,they found that the new nuts can be torqued more easily [the small nuts feel like they are going to strip the threads during torquing] and since doing the SD have NOT had any more issues.Also they have a wobble bar [10"] which they ground to move about 10 deg and they ground the socket walls so it would fit in.This way NO need to remove any bits from the engine.The jury is still out on the need to use loctite,as without it it would make it a lot easier to re-torque the nuts/studs. Cheers > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338613#338613 > > -- Mark Hubelbank NorthEast Monitoring 2 Clock Tower Place Suite 555 Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA mhubel@nemon.com 978-443-3955


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    Time: 12:26:15 PM PST US
    From: Afterfxllc@aol.com
    Subject: Re: What a joke
    I know for a fact the ARP nut is far better and stronger than the old nut but having said that they should have also had the bolt of the proper length replace the old one. It seems to me they are trying to fix a stripping nut problem with a stronger nut when in fact they have a non stretching bolt problem they aren't addressing and as you know when you strengthen one part something else is more prone to fail. Seems like the heat is causing the case to expand and the bolts aren't of the stretch type so the nuts strip as a result. Re torquing is simply masking an underlying problem. Same as the heads. Jeff


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    Time: 12:41:49 PM PST US
    From: Afterfxllc@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Real bolt failure count?
    Just another Jab problem that could be fixed but they seem to think problems don't exist. One question I have is, if the bolt is failing why change the nut? I think they have a nut failure problem and they think a stronger nut is the answer. WRONG


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    Time: 02:46:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Real bolt failure count?
    From: "Thruster87" <alania@optusnet.com.au>
    By using the new nut you are gaining almost a 50% increase in thread take up,thus the load is less per thread which in turn reduces the chance of breakage.Longer studs /bolts are available if so desired. Cheers Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338667#338667




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