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1. 07:30 AM - Re: Poor Man's Cockpit Voice Recorder. (Terry Phillips)
2. 09:53 AM - Metal Shrinkers ()
3. 03:26 PM - brake lines with dual sticks (chris Sinfield)
4. 03:57 PM - Re: brake lines with dual sticks (Paul Mulwitz)
5. 04:24 PM - Re: Metal Shrinkers (Terry Turnquist)
6. 04:33 PM - Re: brake lines with dual sticks (Tonyplane)
7. 04:58 PM - Re: brake lines with dual sticks (Jay Bannister)
8. 04:58 PM - Re: brake lines with dual sticks (Tonyplane)
9. 05:38 PM - Re: brake lines with dual sticks (Peter W Johnson)
10. 06:54 PM - Re: brake lines with dual sticks (Randy)
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| Subject: | Re: Poor Man's Cockpit Voice Recorder. |
Paul
I'm with Jerry on this.
My CFI Velcroed a small video camera on the ceiling of his C150 and
recorded flight lessons on a 12V VCR. Now-a-days, digital recording on a
laptop would be better. The recording included the headset sound signal,
so I had a complete video record of every flight. The camera showed the
view out the windshield as well as most of the instrument panel. To
compensate for the difference in brightness between the windshield and
the panel, he attached a gray filter over the top half of the lens. The
resulting videos were very helpful to me when I later reviewed each
lesson. The panel wasn't quite readable in the videos, but it was not
difficult to interpret the steam gauge readings.
I plan to use a similar setup when I get to phase I testing. You can
also use the laptop to record all the data from an EFIS. Someone has
written a program to handle that job. Google can probably find a link.
Tinker around a bit and let us know how it works.
Terry
On 5/25/2011 8:36 PM, Jerry wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> You could also use the same arrangement with a video recorder. Just
> plug the headset into the mic input on the recorder or do as someone
> else suggested place a small mic in your headset.
>
> I used a video recorder and found it to be super useful. I made
> suction cup mounting device from a dent puller from Harbor Freight. I
> found the plans on the Internet was able to bring the video home and
> refly the entire flight while watching all instruments. Using Windows
> Media play I was able to play the video and get super accurate times
> for ROC data. These are much more accurate than you'll get with a stop
> watch in the airplane.
>
> My 2cents
>
> Jerry
>
> 601HDS, 912, 94 hours, first conditional completed.
>
>
> ---- Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net> wrote:
> > Hi Paul,
>
> I considered some kind of video recording device as well as the voice
> option. Actually the voice option just came to mind.
>
> Video might be nice, but the voice recorder seems very simple to
> install and also to use after the recording is made. I really only
> want performance data and I can "Talk to myself" with the intercom to
> record things like stall speeds and other critical airspeed data.
> Video would make a better recording to share with others, but I really
> want to find a nice way to record data without using a pencil and
> paper. I just don't have enough hands to fly and write at the same
> time and I don't think the trim on this very light plane will fly it
> well enough so I can ignore it for the time it takes to write down data.
>
> I tried to insert a picture of my recorder in the first message and it
> didn't take. I'll try one more time:
>
> Cockpit voice recorder
>
> Paul
> Camas, WA
>
> On 5/25/2011 3:59 PM, paulrod36@msn.com wrote:
>
>> No shooting from here; it makes good sense. You may also want to
>> think about a small video camera to mount over-the-shoulder, to
>> monitor your instruments while doing the Vx, Vy, stall speeds and
>> such. Could also be helpful in correlating engine temps with flight
>> regimes.
>> Paul R
>> Wish I were that far along
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Paul Mulwitz </do/mail/message/mailto?to=psm%40att.net>
>> *To:* zenith601-list@matronics.com
>> </do/mail/message/mailto?to=zenith601-list%40matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:22 PM
>> *Subject:* Zenith601-List: Poor Man's Cockpit Voice Recorder.
>>
>> While thinking about flight test on my XL I have been trying to
>> come up with a neat way to record data. The recent NTSB report
>> on the crash in Alaska brought the idea of a cockpit voice
>> recorder to mind. I'm sure the ones used by the airlines are
>> more expensive than a whole Zodiac, but I tried to come up with a
>> lower priced alternative.
>>
>> It is a normal pocket voice recorder with a cable to plug it into
>> the headset jack intended for the copilot. Since there will be
>> no copilot until phase I testing is completed this is a "Free"
>> jack for attaching the recorder to the intercom.
>>
>> I don't know if it will work well yet, but here it is anyway for
>> everyone to take shots at . . .
>>
>> Paul
>> XL nearing flight test
>>
>> Voice Recorder
>>
>> *title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c*
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> *
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Terry Phillips
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
ZU-601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail& flaps are done;
Upgrading wings& ailerons per AMD Safety Directive
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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Having been allowed to wander off by myself without wifely supervision,
I found myself the new owner of a bright yellow Harbor Freight metal
stretcher/shrinker, which I immediately painted in camouflage colors,
and claimed it was an old war souvenir I've had for years.
Does anybody have suggestions and tips on how to get the best results
out of it? I foresee the opportunity to remove a few wavy edges on
pieces that I've inadvertently stretched during fabrication, and maybe
make aluminum wheel pants. Any tips are welcome. So far, I've learned
not to use too much pressure. Crunch it too hard, and the aluminum will
pucker up quicker than an ugly girl on Sadie Hawkins Day.
Paul R
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| Subject: | brake lines with dual sticks |
Can someone shoot me a/ some photos of how they put the plastic brake lines through
the wing spar cut out/channel with duel sticks fitted??
There is not much room and I was thinking of running them below the rudder cables
through the plastic.
or any other Ideas.. I don't want to go outside the fuse and under the spar that
way..
chris..
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341306#341306
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| Subject: | Re: brake lines with dual sticks |
Hi Chris,
I guess you won't like my approach. I ran the brake lines (nylon tubes)
out the bottom skin up by the pedals and under the cabin all the way to
the gear spring. It may not sound very elegant, but it seems to work
just fine.
Paul
On 5/28/2011 3:23 PM, chris Sinfield wrote:
> --> Zenith601-List message posted by: "chris Sinfield"<chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
>
> Can someone shoot me a/ some photos of how they put the plastic brake lines
through the wing spar cut out/channel with duel sticks fitted??
>
> There is not much room and I was thinking of running them below the rudder cables
through the plastic.
>
> or any other Ideas.. I don't want to go outside the fuse and under the spar that
way..
>
> chris..
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341306#341306
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Metal Shrinkers |
Sadie Hawkins Day! -Man you are older than- the redwoods! .....Me too!
-- LOL
-
Terry
--- On Sat, 5/28/11, paulrod36@msn.com <paulrod36@msn.com> wrote:
From: paulrod36@msn.com <paulrod36@msn.com>
Subject: Zenith601-List: Metal Shrinkers
Having been allowed to-wander off by myself without wifely supervision, I
found myself the new owner of a bright yellow Harbor Freight metal stretch
er/shrinker, which I immediately painted in camouflage colors, and claimed
it was an old war souvenir I've had for years.-
-
-Does anybody have suggestions and tips on how to get the best results ou
t of it?- I foresee the opportunity to remove a few wavy edges on pieces
that I've inadvertently stretched during fabrication, and maybe make alumin
um wheel pants. - Any tips are welcome. So far, I've learned not to-use
too much pressure. Crunch it too hard, and-the aluminum will-pucker up
quicker than an ugly girl on Sadie Hawkins Day.
-
Paul R
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| Subject: | Re: brake lines with dual sticks |
Chris,
I know that there is not much room, but the lines will fit. I used "Adel" type
clamps holding ribbed plastic split automotive wire conduit in which the lines
were passed through. The clamps were installed both sides of the spar to prevent
any interference with the cables. I also have dual sticks.
Tony Graziano
Xl/Jab; N493TG
615 trouble free fun hours.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 28, 2011, at 5:23 PM, "chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> Can someone shoot me a/ some photos of how they put the plastic brake lines
through the wing spar cut out/channel with duel sticks fitted??
>
> There is not much room and I was thinking of running them below the rudder cables
through the plastic.
>
> or any other Ideas.. I don't want to go outside the fuse and under the spar that
way..
>
> chris..
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341306#341306
>
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| Subject: | Re: brake lines with dual sticks |
Chris,
Sorry, I don't have any good photos of it, but I did just what you are thin
king about. I ran the brake lines through the nylon plates that cover the
hole in the spar, just about an inch below the rudder cables. Worked fine.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: chris Sinfield <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 5:27 pm
Subject: Zenith601-List: brake lines with dual sticks
o.com.au>
Can someone shoot me a/ some photos of how they put the plastic brake line
s
through the wing spar cut out/channel with duel sticks fitted??
There is not much room and I was thinking of running them below the rudder
cables through the plastic.
or any other Ideas.. I don't want to go outside the fuse and under the spar
that
way..
chris..
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341306#341306
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| Subject: | Re: brake lines with dual sticks |
Just a clairficarion- the clamps were bolted through the lower skin on both sides
of the center spar.
Tony
Sent from my iPhone
On May 28, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Tonyplane <tonyplane@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Chris,
> I know that there is not much room, but the lines will fit. I used "Adel" type
clamps holding ribbed plastic split automotive wire conduit in which the lines
were passed through. The clamps were installed both sides of the spar to prevent
any interference with the cables. I also have dual sticks.
>
> Tony Graziano
> Xl/Jab; N493TG
> 615 trouble free fun hours.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 28, 2011, at 5:23 PM, "chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>> Can someone shoot me a/ some photos of how they put the plastic brake lines
through the wing spar cut out/channel with duel sticks fitted??
>>
>> There is not much room and I was thinking of running them below the rudder
cables through the plastic.
>>
>> or any other Ideas.. I don't want to go outside the fuse and under the spar
that way..
>>
>> chris..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341306#341306
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| Subject: | brake lines with dual sticks |
Paul/Chris,
I did the same. No problems so far.
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://zodiac.cpc-world.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mulwitz
Sent: Sunday, 29 May 2011 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: brake lines with dual sticks
Hi Chris,
I guess you won't like my approach. I ran the brake lines (nylon tubes)
out the bottom skin up by the pedals and under the cabin all the way to
the gear spring. It may not sound very elegant, but it seems to work
just fine.
Paul
On 5/28/2011 3:23 PM, chris Sinfield wrote:
> --> Zenith601-List message posted by: "chris
Sinfield"<chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
>
> Can someone shoot me a/ some photos of how they put the plastic brake
lines through the wing spar cut out/channel with duel sticks fitted??
>
> There is not much room and I was thinking of running them below the
rudder cables through the plastic.
>
> or any other Ideas.. I don't want to go outside the fuse and under the
spar that way..
>
> chris..
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341306#341306
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: brake lines with dual sticks |
Hi Chris,
I ran my brake lines under the cabin. Probably similar to what Paul did.
526 hours with no problems.
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 5:23 PM
Subject: Zenith601-List: brake lines with dual sticks
> <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
>
> Can someone shoot me a/ some photos of how they put the plastic brake
> lines through the wing spar cut out/channel with duel sticks fitted??
>
> There is not much room and I was thinking of running them below the
> rudder cables through the plastic.
>
> or any other Ideas.. I don't want to go outside the fuse and under the
> spar that way..
>
> chris..
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341306#341306
>
>
>
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