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1. 09:01 AM - Re: Re: Metal Shrinkers ()
2. 09:23 AM - Instrument panel access (Larry Winger)
3. 09:42 AM - Re: Instrument panel access (George Race)
4. 09:55 AM - Re: Instrument panel access (Paul Mulwitz)
5. 10:17 AM - Re: Instrument panel access (Paul Mulwitz)
6. 10:49 AM - Re: Instrument panel access (Larry Winger)
7. 10:57 AM - Re: Instrument panel access (Jay Bannister)
8. 11:21 AM - Re: Instrument panel access (Larry Winger)
9. 11:29 AM - Re: Instrument panel access (Paul Mulwitz)
10. 11:54 AM - Re: Instrument panel access (Paul Mulwitz)
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| Subject: | Re: Metal Shrinkers |
Ron, thanks for the tips. Looked at your site, and that plane is going
to be beautiful!
Paul R
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Lendon<mailto:ron.lendon@gmail.com>
To: zenith601-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith601-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 10:13 PM
Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Metal Shrinkers
<ron.lendon@gmail.com<mailto:ron.lendon@gmail.com>>
Try this, bend a couple of standard 90 degree L-angles about 4' long.
Stretch one and shrink the other into circles. This will give you
practice and teach you control. Go slow and keep the steps equal.
Another thing is read books about metal shaping. Ron Fournier wrote a
couple of books and has more tools for sale. I used to work with him
years ago and can recommend him as a man of integrity.
http://www.fournierenterprises.com/<http://www.fournierenterprises.com/>
You might want to take a look at my kit log site, making an aluminum
nose bowl right now.
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Ron Lendon, Detroit, MI
WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon<http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon>
Corvair Engine Prints:
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Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Instrument panel access |
My forward top skin is in one piece, but I would like to be able to have
easy access between the firewall and instrument panel in the future. I
realize that I can use U-clips and R&R the whole piece, but I'm really
looking for something like an access hole or two.
What has worked for you? Pictures would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Larry Winger
CH650/Corvair
Mods done, engine installed, ready to wire
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| Subject: | Instrument panel access |
Larry is there something on my web site that would be of help?
www.mrrace.com/Products/
If not I could design and build to your specifications.
George
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[mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Winger
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:19 PM
Subject: Zenith601-List: Instrument panel access
My forward top skin is in one piece, but I would like to be able to have
easy access between the firewall and instrument panel in the future. I
realize that I can use U-clips and R&R the whole piece, but I'm really
looking for something like an access hole or two.
What has worked for you? Pictures would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Larry Winger
CH650/Corvair
Mods done, engine installed, ready to wire
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument panel access |
Hi Larry,
I cut large rectangular "Inspection holes" in the top skin. Each one
covers nearly one half of the skin with a couple of inches margin from
the edges (I think). Inspection plates are typical ZAC design with
about 12 nutplates and the same #10 screws as other ones.
I probably have pictures somewhere but I am busy right now (eating
lunch). If you would like to see them please let me know.
Paul
XL upgrade complete - reassembling wings to fuselage.
On 5/31/2011 9:19 AM, Larry Winger wrote:
> My forward top skin is in one piece, but I would like to be able to
> have easy access between the firewall and instrument panel in the
> future. I realize that I can use U-clips and R&R the whole piece, but
> I'm really looking for something like an access hole or two.
>
> What has worked for you? Pictures would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Larry Winger
> CH650/Corvair
> Mods done, engine installed, ready to wire
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument panel access |
Here is a picture that gives you the general idea . . .
Paul
On 5/31/2011 9:52 AM, Paul Mulwitz wrote:
> Hi Larry,
>
> I cut large rectangular "Inspection holes" in the top skin. Each one
> covers nearly one half of the skin with a couple of inches margin from
> the edges (I think). Inspection plates are typical ZAC design with
> about 12 nutplates and the same #10 screws as other ones.
>
> I probably have pictures somewhere but I am busy right now (eating
> lunch). If you would like to see them please let me know.
>
> Paul
> XL upgrade complete - reassembling wings to fuselage.
>
> On 5/31/2011 9:19 AM, Larry Winger wrote:
>> My forward top skin is in one piece, but I would like to be able to
>> have easy access between the firewall and instrument panel in the
>> future. I realize that I can use U-clips and R&R the whole piece,
>> but I'm really looking for something like an access hole or two.
>>
>> What has worked for you? Pictures would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Larry Winger
>> CH650/Corvair
>> Mods done, engine installed, ready to wire
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument panel access |
Thanks, Paul. Any special reinforcement?
Larry
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net> wrote:
> Here is a picture that gives you the general idea . . .
>
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 5/31/2011 9:52 AM, Paul Mulwitz wrote:
>
> Hi Larry,
>
> I cut large rectangular "Inspection holes" in the top skin. Each one
> covers nearly one half of the skin with a couple of inches margin from the
> edges (I think). Inspection plates are typical ZAC design with about 12
> nutplates and the same #10 screws as other ones.
>
> I probably have pictures somewhere but I am busy right now (eating lunch).
> If you would like to see them please let me know.
>
> Paul
> XL upgrade complete - reassembling wings to fuselage.
>
> On 5/31/2011 9:19 AM, Larry Winger wrote:
>
> My forward top skin is in one piece, but I would like to be able to have
> easy access between the firewall and instrument panel in the future. I
> realize that I can use U-clips and R&R the whole piece, but I'm really
> looking for something like an access hole or two.
>
> What has worked for you? Pictures would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Larry Winger
> CH650/Corvair
> Mods done, engine installed, ready to wire
>
> *
>
> *
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument panel access |
Larry,
Here is what I did. I used electrician's rubber tape instead of the silico
ne sealant for a gasket. I had that panel off many, many times working out
bugs in the wiring.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Winger <larrywinger@gmail.com>
@matronics.com>
Sent: Tue, May 31, 2011 11:26 am
Subject: Zenith601-List: Instrument panel access
My forward top skin is in one piece, but I would like to be able to have ea
sy access between the firewall and instrument panel in the future. I reali
ze that I can use U-clips and R&R the whole piece, but I'm really looking f
or something like an access hole or two.
What has worked for you? Pictures would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Larry Winger
CH650/Corvair
Mods done, engine installed, ready to wire
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument panel access |
Thanks, Jay. As always, you are a great resource.
Larry
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Jay Bannister <jaybannist@cs.com> wrote:
> Larry,
>
> Here is what I did. I used electrician's rubber tape instead of the
> silicone sealant for a gasket. I had that panel off many, many times
> working out bugs in the wiring.
>
> Jay
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Winger <larrywinger@gmail.com>
> To: zenith-list <zenith-list@matronics.com>; zenith601-list <
> zenith601-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tue, May 31, 2011 11:26 am
> Subject: Zenith601-List: Instrument panel access
>
> My forward top skin is in one piece, but I would like to be able to have
> easy access between the firewall and instrument panel in the future. I
> realize that I can use U-clips and R&R the whole piece, but I'm really
> looking for something like an access hole or two.
>
> What has worked for you? Pictures would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Larry Winger
> CH650/Corvair
> Mods done, engine installed, ready to wire
>
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument panel access |
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument panel access |
It looks like my last message got corrupted, so here it is again . . .
On 5/31/2011 11:26 AM, Paul Mulwitz wrote:
> Hi Larry,
>
> I don't remember for sure, but I might have put a skin weight u
> channel on the bottom of the top skin apex. This would stiffen the
> attachment to the firewall a little. It probably doesn't matter much
> since the inspection plates are firmly fastened to the skin and
> replace the skin that was cut out.
>
> One trick I did was to put fuse blocks on the channel going to the
> bottom of the instrument panel. I decided that if a fuse blew in
> flight it was not time for the pilot to try to trouble shoot the
> problem. With the big inspection holes it is easy to get to the fuses
> when the plane is on the ground.
>
> Paul
>
> On 5/31/2011 10:45 AM, Larry Winger wrote:
>> Thanks, Paul. Any special reinforcement?
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