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1. 09:36 AM - Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 04/14/12 (Joe)
2. 12:24 PM - Re: Re: 601 down... ()
3. 03:41 PM - Re: Re: 601 down... (Tonyplane)
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 04/14/12 |
Here are a couple of videos from the Zenith to Oshkosh party in 2011.
http://youtu.be/gjPcUywpZsg
http://youtu.be/itpNw3dR3BM
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We seem to be missing something here. If you "slowly enter", and are in
the stall regime, buffeting and bobbing, and there is still enough
elevator to rapidly pull the stick back even further, you either have
too much airspeed, or have too much elevator displacement for a
non-aerobatic airplane. A violent pitch-down that would put you against
the canopy shouldn't happen. Just my opinion, but based on a bunch of
years of flying.
Paul R.
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Mulwitz<mailto:psm@att.net>
To: zenith601-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith601-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: 601 down...
<psm@att.net<mailto:psm@att.net>>
Hi Tony,
Very interesting post. Thank you.
Let me add for those with no aerobatic training . . . whenever you
find
yourself in a steep descent the first thing to do is pull power back
to
idle. This will prevent over-speed and also allow for a relatively
low
G pullout. Then a very gentle back pressure on the stick will get you
back to level flight a lot faster than you expect.
Paul
On 4/13/2012 12:56 PM, Tonyplane wrote:
> --> Zenith601-List message posted by:
Tonyplane<tonyplane@bellsouth.net<mailto:tonyplane@bellsouth.net>>
>
> As i understand it, acft impacted almost vertically
> For those in 601XL flight test, and others, if you have never
explored this part of your flight envelop:
>
> At or above 3000 ft AGL
> Make sure lose articles in cockpit are secure
> Make sure seat belt is tight.
> Clear area.
> Apply carb heat as req.
> Retard throttle
> Slowly enter into stall buffeting/"bobbing".
> Keep wings level with rudder as req while still in stall regime.
> Abruptly/rapidly pull stick full aft in attempt to fully stall wing
or horz stab.
>
> In my acft, the pitch down is abrupt-without a seat belt I would
probably go through the canopy. If pitched straight down, remember to
neutralize stick, use rudder as req to prevent any roll and to recover
w/o excessive Gs.
>
> Tony Graziano
> 601xl/jab. N493TG; 655 hrs
>
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CG
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 15, 2012, at 2:22 PM, <paulrod36@msn.com> wrote:
> We seem to be missing something here. If you "slowly enter", and are in th
e stall regime, buffeting and bobbing, and there is still enough elevator to
rapidly pull the stick back even further, you either have too much airspeed
, or have too much elevator displacement for a non-aerobatic airplane. A vio
lent pitch-down that would put you against the canopy shouldn't happen. Just
my opinion, but based on a bunch of years of flying.
>
> Paul R.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Mulwitz
> To: zenith601-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: 601 down...
>
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Very interesting post. Thank you.
>
> Let me add for those with no aerobatic training . . . whenever you find
> yourself in a steep descent the first thing to do is pull power back to
> idle. This will prevent over-speed and also allow for a relatively low
> G pullout. Then a very gentle back pressure on the stick will get you
> back to level flight a lot faster than you expect.
>
> Paul
>
> On 4/13/2012 12:56 PM, Tonyplane wrote:
> > --> Zenith601-List message posted by: Tonyplane<tonyplane@bellsouth.net
>
> >
> > As i understand it, acft impacted almost vertically
> > For those in 601XL flight test, and others, if you have never explored t
his part of your flight envelop:
> >
> > At or above 3000 ft AGL
> > Make sure lose articles in cockpit are secure
> > Make sure seat belt is tight.
> > Clear area.
> > Apply carb heat as req.
> > Retard throttle
> > Slowly enter into stall buffeting/"bobbing".
> > Keep wings level with rudder as req while still in stall regime.
> > Abruptly/rapidly pull stick full aft in attempt to fully stall wing or h
orz stab.
> >
> > In my acft, the pitch down is abrupt-without a seat belt I would probabl
y go through the canopy. If pitched straight down, remember to neutralize st
ick, use rudder as req to prevent any roll and to recover w/o excessive Gs.
> >
> > Tony Graziano
> > 601xl/jab. N493TG; 655 hrs
> >
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