---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/14/12: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:23 PM - HDS Gear (Mark Napier -X (napierm - STMicroelectronics Inc. at Cisco)) 2. 01:51 PM - Re: HDS Gear (Jerry) 3. 02:34 PM - Re: HDS Gear (Damien Graham) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:23:33 PM PST US From: "Mark Napier -X (napierm - STMicroelectronics Inc. at Cisco)" Subject: Zenith601-List: HDS Gear Hello, I just bought and flew back Cliff Gromer's 601HDS from upstate NY down to G A. This is the Popular Mechanics plane from 1997. It has a few squawks bu t is very pretty and flies nice. On landing on our grass strip I discover that the bungie main struts are ve ry stiff. The roll out is a pogo stick ride. Now the heavier planes with spring gear or oleo struts don't jolt like this down the runway. Even the Kitfox III with bungie gear wasn't this rough. I can push down on one wing to lift the other main off of the ground and sh ake the plane and still that main strut does not move. Cliff says this is normal and that it is stiff. Is this everyone's experience? It seems like the mains should give a littl e. Has anyone tried softening them up somehow? Thanks in advance, Mark Napier ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:51:01 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: HDS Gear From: Jerry TXkgSERTIGlzIGFsc28gc3RpZmYuICBJIGRvbid0IHRoaW5rIGl0J3MgYSBnb29kIGlkZWEgdG8g bWFrZSBpdCBsZXNzIHN0aWZmLgpKZXJyeSAKClNlbnQgZnJvbSBteSBWZXJpem9uIFdpcmVsZXNz IDRHIExURSBEUk9JRAoKIk1hcmsgTmFwaWVyIC1YIChuYXBpZXJtIC0gU1RNaWNyb2VsZWN0cm9u aWNzIEluYy4gYXQgQ2lzY28pIiA8bmFwaWVybUBjaXNjby5jb20+IHdyb3RlOgoKPkhlbGxvLAo+ Cj5JIGp1c3QgYm91Z2h0IGFuZCBmbGV3IGJhY2sgQ2xpZmYgR3JvbWVyJ3MgNjAxSERTIGZyb20g dXBzdGF0ZSBOWSBkb3duIHRvIEdBLiAgVGhpcyBpcyB0aGUgUG9wdWxhciBNZWNoYW5pY3MgcGxh bmUgZnJvbSAxOTk3LiAgSXQgaGFzIGEgZmV3IHNxdWF3a3MgYnV0IGlzIHZlcnkgcHJldHR5IGFu ZCBmbGllcyBuaWNlLgo+Cj5PbiBsYW5kaW5nIG9uIG91ciBncmFzcyBzdHJpcCBJIGRpc2NvdmVy IHRoYXQgdGhlIGJ1bmdpZSBtYWluIHN0cnV0cyBhcmUgdmVyeSBzdGlmZi4gIFRoZSByb2xsIG91 dCBpcyBhIHBvZ28gc3RpY2sgcmlkZS4gIE5vdyB0aGUgaGVhdmllciBwbGFuZXMgd2l0aCBzcHJp bmcgZ2VhciBvciBvbGVvIHN0cnV0cyBkb24ndCBqb2x0IGxpa2UgdGhpcyBkb3duIHRoZSBydW53 YXkuICBFdmVuIHRoZSBLaXRmb3ggSUlJIHdpdGggYnVuZ2llIGdlYXIgd2Fzbid0IHRoaXMgcm91 Z2guCj4KPkkgY2FuIHB1c2ggZG93biBvbiBvbmUgd2luZyB0byBsaWZ0IHRoZSBvdGhlciBtYWlu IG9mZiBvZiB0aGUgZ3JvdW5kIGFuZCBzaGFrZSB0aGUgcGxhbmUgYW5kIHN0aWxsIHRoYXQgbWFp biBzdHJ1dCBkb2VzIG5vdCBtb3ZlLiAgQ2xpZmYgc2F5cyB0aGlzIGlzIG5vcm1hbCBhbmQgdGhh dCBpdCBpcyBzdGlmZi4KPgo+SXMgdGhpcyBldmVyeW9uZSdzIGV4cGVyaWVuY2U/ICBJdCBzZWVt cyBsaWtlIHRoZSBtYWlucyBzaG91bGQgZ2l2ZSBhIGxpdHRsZS4gIEhhcyBhbnlvbmUgdHJpZWQg c29mdGVuaW5nIHRoZW0gdXAgc29tZWhvdz8KPgo+VGhhbmtzIGluIGFkdmFuY2UsCj4KPk1hcmsg TmFwaWVyCj4KPgo ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:34:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: HDS Gear From: Damien Graham I have a 601 HDS that I bought 3 years ago from the builder. Actually it is p ainted just like your plane because the builder liked the paint job on the P opular Mechanics 601 HDS. The builder of my plane also did not like the stiffness so he only put one b ungee on each main wheel but I was concerned about having just one bungee so I asked him to add the second bungee before I bought it. You are right abou t the ride on a grass strips. It is a pogo stick ride !!! I do love the 601 HDS though. I have about 238 hours on it and it is great. I put VGs on the wings and I have convinced myself the the stall speed has be en lowered to 45-47 mph. It is a great little plane. I have the 80 HP 912 and I am considering upgrading to 100 HP. That would tr uly be a hoot. Regards, Damien Graham N48TK . Sent from my iPad On Sep 14, 2012, at 3:22 PM, "Mark Napier -X (napierm - STMicroelectronics I nc. at Cisco)" wrote: > Hello, > > I just bought and flew back Cliff Gromer's 601HDS from upstate NY down to G A. This is the Popular Mechanics plane from 1997. It has a few squawks but is very pretty and flies nice. > > On landing on our grass strip I discover that the bungie main struts are v ery stiff. The roll out is a pogo stick ride. Now the heavier planes with s pring gear or oleo struts don't jolt like this down the runway. Even the Ki tfox III with bungie gear wasn't this rough. > > I can push down on one wing to lift the other main off of the ground and s hake the plane and still that main strut does not move. Cliff says this is n ormal and that it is stiff. > > Is this everyone's experience? It seems like the mains should give a litt le. Has anyone tried softening them up somehow? > > Thanks in advance, > > Mark Napier > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith601-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith601-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith601-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith601-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.