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Tue 10/02/12


Total Messages Posted: 2



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     1. 03:28 PM - Re: Rudder Bearings (Mark Hubelbank)
     2. 04:18 PM - Re: Rudder Bearings (Carlos Sa)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:28:56 PM PST US
    From: Mark Hubelbank <mhubel@nemon.com>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Bearings
    Carlos, I believe you had asked for the dimensions of the bearing, It is 3/16 ID and 5/16 OD. The full drawing is at: http://www.mcmaster.com/#cadinlnord/57155k16/=jjty4f On 10/01/2012 5:20 PM, Carlos Sa wrote: > Mark, I would be interested on that too - but I see no pertinent > picture... Could you perhaps provide a direct link? > > Thanks > > > Carlos Sa > CH601-HD, plans > > On 1 October 2012 16:59, Mark Hubelbank <mhubel@nemon.com > <mailto:mhubel@nemon.com>> wrote: > > Bobby, > I put in ball bearings. I never liked the original setup. It > did not seem to be a proper bearing. There are some comments and > pictures of it at www.n708hu.com <http://www.n708hu.com> > > > On 10/01/2012 4:47 PM, BobbyPaulk@comcast.net > <mailto:BobbyPaulk@comcast.net> wrote: >> List >> Re: 601 XL B >> I am in the middle of my conditional inspection and have found >> what I believe to be excessive play in the rudder bearings. ( >> nearly 1/16" at 160 hours ). The 1/4" steel sleeve is turning in >> the aluminum and wearing it. ( the .187" aluminum ) . Part of the >> play is in the fit between the 3/16" bolt and the 1/4" steel >> bushing. I have kept it well lubed. >> I have John Read's drawing from 2007 showing how to add Sintered >> Bronze Bearings ( Symmco SF812 - 4 and - 5 ) bearings. This >> requires boring the 1/4" hole in the aluminum to 3/8". I am >> concerned about the edge distance metal left after boring the >> hole to 3/8" OD. >> I have found a 3/16" x 5/16" ( Symmco SF610 - 5 ) Sintered Bronze >> bearing I am planning to use. This would eliminate the 1/4" OD >> steel sleeve and require only a 5/16" hole in the .187 aluminum. >> This would still afford more bearing surface than the Steel >> sleeve against the .187" aluminum. >> If I use this set up it would only take a few thousandths out of >> the already elongated hole in the aluminum. >> My 2 part question is - is there a better fix available - if not >> is the 3/16" x 5/16" Sintered bronze bearing against the 3/16" >> bolt strong enough to stand the loads generated by the rudder? >> >> Bobby ( age 74 ) >> Zodiac 601 XL "B" >> Jabiru 3300 S/N 1141 >> Sensenich 64" x 51" Prop >> Bing Carb 260 Main & 285 Needle Jet >> Status - Flying 160 hrs. >> >> >> Mark Hubelbank Ch601XL-B Jabiru 3300 Sensenich adj prop Rotec TBI-40-3 240 Hours airframe


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    Time: 04:18:43 PM PST US
    From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Bearings
    Mark, thanks much for all the info Carlos On 2 October 2012 18:28, Mark Hubelbank <mhubel@nemon.com> wrote: > Carlos, > I believe you had asked for the dimensions of the bearing, It is 3/16 > ID and 5/16 OD. The full drawing is at: > > http://www.mcmaster.com/#cadinlnord/57155k16/=jjty4f > > On 10/01/2012 5:20 PM, Carlos Sa wrote: > > Mark, I would be interested on that too - but I see no pertinent > picture... Could you perhaps provide a direct link? > > Thanks > > > Carlos Sa > CH601-HD, plans > > On 1 October 2012 16:59, Mark Hubelbank <mhubel@nemon.com> wrote: > >> Bobby, >> I put in ball bearings. I never liked the original setup. It did not >> seem to be a proper bearing. There are some comments and pictures of it at >> www.n708hu.com >> >> >> On 10/01/2012 4:47 PM, BobbyPaulk@comcast.net wrote: >> >> List >> Re: 601 XL B >> I am in the middle of my conditional inspection and have found what I >> believe to be excessive play in the rudder bearings. ( nearly 1/16" at 160 >> hours ). The 1/4" steel sleeve is turning in the aluminum and wearing it. ( >> the .187" aluminum ) . Part of the play is in the fit between the 3/16" >> bolt and the 1/4" steel bushing. I have kept it well lubed. >> I have John Read's drawing from 2007 showing how to add Sintered Bronze >> Bearings ( Symmco SF812 - 4 and - 5 ) bearings. This requires boring the >> 1/4" hole in the aluminum to 3/8". I am concerned about the edge distance >> metal left after boring the hole to 3/8" OD. >> I have found a 3/16" x 5/16" ( Symmco SF610 - 5 ) Sintered Bronze bearing >> I am planning to use. This would eliminate the 1/4" OD steel sleeve and >> require only a 5/16" hole in the .187 aluminum. This would still afford >> more bearing surface than the Steel sleeve against the .187" aluminum. >> If I use this set up it would only take a few thousandths out of the >> already elongated hole in the aluminum. >> My 2 part question is - is there a better fix available - if not is the >> 3/16" x 5/16" Sintered bronze bearing against the 3/16" bolt strong enough >> to stand the loads generated by the rudder? >> >> Bobby ( age 74 ) >> Zodiac 601 XL "B" >> Jabiru 3300 S/N 1141 >> Sensenich 64" x 51" Prop >> Bing Carb 260 Main & 285 Needle Jet >> Status - Flying 160 hrs. >> >> >> >> Mark Hubelbank > Ch601XL-B > Jabiru 3300 > Sensenich adj prop > Rotec TBI-40-3 > 240 Hours airframe > > * > > * > >




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