---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/17/13: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:24 PM - Re: CH601HD Wing tanks (Marcos Varela Sartal) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:24:14 PM PST US From: Marcos Varela Sartal Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: CH601HD Wing tanks Hello all,=0AThanks a lot for your information.=0AThe plans shown=C2- 1/4 diameter pipe for the standard header tank, I think it would be enough. It =C2=B4s easy to get finger screen and weldable flange for this size. I=C2 =B4m going to use .032" sheet as per your instructions.=0AMy Best Regards =0AMarcos=C2-=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A De: Larry McFa rland =0APara: zenith601-list@matronics.com =0AE nviado: Mi=C3=A9rcoles 16 de enero de 2013 20:34=0AAsunto: RE: Zenith601-Li st: CH601HD Wing tanks=0A =0A=0AHI Marcos,=0AYou=99ll be better off using 3/8 O.D.- .035 wall 3000 series aluminum fuel line. The 3/8 line has been nearly a requirement in aviation for a long time. =C2-Select only a fuel valve that allows left, right or off. =0A6061 T6 is also easily by TIG process.=C2- 5052 is selected for deep formed products that=C2- need t o stretch.=C2-=C2- 6061 is very corrosion resistant and suitable for ta nk material.=0ATry to get something like an Andair fuel valve, with left ri ght and off, see FS20 valves at Aircraft Spruce. =0A=C2-=0ALarry McFarlan d=0A=C2-=0AFrom:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-z enith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcos Varela Sartal=0ASen t: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:13 AM=0ATo: zenith601-list@matronics.com =0ASubject: Re: Zenith601-List: CH601HD Wing tanks=0A=C2-=0AHello Larry a nd all,=0A=C2-I=C2=B4m clear now. I have also a =C2-.032" 6061T6 sheet (I have to bought one only for rear spars and small pieces but is 12 x 4 ft )=0AAnother question as I=C2=B4m prepairing the order to Spruce, the select or valve must switch between right and left tank only or right-left and bot h? I want to use aluminium fuel line of 1/4", It=C2=B4s ok? My engine is a Jabiru 2200.=0AThanks again=0AMarcos Varela=C2-=0A=C2-=0ADe:Larry McFar land =0APara: zenith601-list@matronics.com =0AEn viado: Mi=C3=A9rcoles 16 de enero de 2013 0:17=0AAsunto: RE: Zenith601-List : CH601HD Wing tanks=0A=0A=0AHi Marcos,=0AYes, there are no holding points or fasteners per se, but the fit has to be such that the nose skin, spar bu mpers only contact the cork that gets wrapped=0AAround the tank.=C2- The tank should fit like a glove and it will not move about at all after the no se skin is formally clecoed or riveted in place. =0A.040 is a bit heavier t han I=99d use for wing tanks.=C2- .040 would weld fine, but it =99d be 25% heavier than it should be and not improved for strength or d urability.=0ANot so sure of the tank length, but the clearance was approxim ately =C2=BD inch tank end to rib each end.=C2- =0A=C2-=0AThe first hal f of Journal section 2 covers most of the process of doing tanks.=0AGood lu ck!=0A=C2-=0ALarry McFarland =0A=C2-=0AFrom:owner-zenith601-list-server @matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcos Varela Sartal=0ASent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:09 PM=0ATo: ze nith601-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Zenith601-List: CH601HD Wing tank s=0A=C2-=0AHello Larry=C2-and all,=0AThanks a lot for your help, I=C2 =B4ve studied your web several times..... Great job with a lot of useful in formation.=0AI have an idea of what I need but just some points of doubt: =0A- I understood thast there is no fixing points, just the cork and the wi ng skin around it?=0A- What about the angles on the rear (between tank and spar) Is only to separate a little, no rivets or screws=C2-to attach the tank?=0A- How long is the tank and how much separate from the first rib?=0A =C2-=0AI read about using 5052 aluminium sheet, but I have a lot of 6061T 6 sheet of .040 but i=C2=B4m not sure if this is weldable.=0AThanks in adva nce=0AMarcos Varela=0A=C2-=0ADe:Larry McFarland =0APara: zenith601-list@matronics.com =0AEnviado: Martes 15 de enero de 2 013 15:50=0AAsunto: RE: Zenith601-List: CH601HD Wing tanks=0A=C2-=0AHi Ma rcos,=0AI built tanks within my wing leading edges. It was and interesting process. The process is documented in Section 2 of my journal and in subjec ts of =0Aconstruct in the site menu called =9Clead edge tanks =9D. See my website at macsmachine.com. The pictures show tools, jigs and s ome of the=0Amethods which enabled fitting, jigging and welding the ends, b ack and nose skins.=C2- I=99d recommend you use .032 minimum materi al if you are welding these.=0AYou could=C2- possibly do without the draw ings if you look very carefully at what was done on my site and template ta nk ribs 1/8 inch smaller than the wing=0Aribs and shorter by the depth of s par bumpers.=C2- Also, it=99s not hard to make a set of filler caps that go flush with the wing skin if you study what was done on my site.=0A I will say that the constant chord non-tapered wing should make the job muc h easier than what I had to do with the HDS.=0Ahttp://www.macsmachine.com/h tml/leadedgetanks.htm=0AAs you may have questions, do please feel free to a sk.=0A=C2-=0ALarry McFarland=C2- =C2-=0Alarrycmcfarland@gmail.com=0A =C2-=0A=C2-=0AFrom:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:ow ner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcos Varela Sartal =0ASent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:30 AM=0ATo: zenith601-list@matronics.c om=0ASubject: Zenith601-List: CH601HD Wing tanks=0A=C2-=0AHello all,=0AI =C2=B4m started to build the wing spars, left spar=C2-is riveted and righ t one=C2-in proccess. I want to install wing tanks but my plans (Serial 8 487) has not information about that.=0AI want to build my own tanks in 5052 aluminium sheet but I have no idea how to support them in the wing spars. The only information I get are some pictures from HDS wings and I think I h ave to move the ribs to allow space for the tanks.=0AAny information, photo s, etc...?=0A=C2-=0AMarcos Varela=0ASPAIN=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0Aht tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.c om/=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A=C2-=0Ahttp://www.matronics .com/======================= ==0Aforums.matronics.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://foru ms.mat/==C2-=C2- --> =0A=0A=0A=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List=0Ahttp://forums.matronics .com/=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A=C2-=0Acom/Navigator?Zeni th601-List" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://wwwhref=%22http/for ums.matronics.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">htn" rel="nofollow " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution====== ========0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0Ahttp://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com=0Ahttp://w ==== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith601-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith601-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith601-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith601-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.