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1. 07:59 AM - XL Help needed (Tim Juhl)
2. 08:43 AM - Re: XL Help needed (Jay Bannister)
3. 05:38 PM - Re: XL Help needed (Tim Juhl)
4. 05:58 PM - Re: Re: XL Help needed (Jay Bannister)
5. 06:01 PM - Re: XL Help needed (Mark Hubelbank)
6. 06:23 PM - Re: Re: XL Help needed (Jay Bannister)
7. 06:51 PM - Re: XL Help needed (Tim Juhl)
8. 07:07 PM - Re: Re: XL Help needed (Jay Bannister)
9. 07:59 PM - XL Wheel pants (Tim Juhl)
10. 08:14 PM - Re: XL Wheel pants (Carlos Sa)
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How good are the positions given for the aileron cable fairleads on 6B22 (02/05)?
The position of the forward fairlead seems a little vague and I find the drawing
confusing. Does anyone have a copy of the portion of drawing 6B11 (01/08)
showing the locations of holes for cables, wires, etc., in the side skin? Any
info or pix will help.
Thanks!
Tim
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Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
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Subject: | Re: XL Help needed |
Tim,
I was confused too. The hole for the balance cable is right up against the
seat back 6B5-1 (7mm away & 120mm from the floor), so there is a plain pie
ce of nylon riveted to 6B5-1 to keep the cable from rubbing on the seat bac
k. The hole for the aft cable is 110mm directly above the Z 6B1-7. Hope t
his helps.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Juhl <timjuhl@frontier.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 10, 2013 10:01 am
Subject: Zenith601-List: XL Help needed
How good are the positions given for the aileron cable fairleads on 6B22
(02/05)? The position of the forward fairlead seems a little vague and I fi
nd
the drawing confusing. Does anyone have a copy of the portion of drawing 6B
11
(01/08) showing the locations of holes for cables, wires, etc., in the side
skin? Any info or pix will help.
Thanks!
Tim
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Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Wing modifications done - back working on the fuselage
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Subject: | Re: XL Help needed |
I'm still confused. The nylon piece(s) riveted to the back of the seat panel...
is there one on each side, butting up against the side skin or?
Tim
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Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Wing modifications done - back working on the fuselage
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Subject: | Re: XL Help needed |
I guess you could say that there are two pieces to the balance cable fairle
ad and the two pieces are at right angles to one another. One is for the s
ide skin hole that is riveted to the side skin and the other one riveted to
the aft side of the seat back just to protect it from possible rubbing by
the cable. That one is at right angles to and does butt up against the sid
e skin.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Juhl <timjuhl@frontier.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:39 pm
Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: XL Help needed
I'm still confused. The nylon piece(s) riveted to the back of the seat pan
el...
is there one on each side, butting up against the side skin or?
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Wing modifications done - back working on the fuselage
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Subject: | Re: XL Help needed |
Tim,
On the web site n708HU.com picture 0648 may be of some value.
On 03/10/2013 10:59 AM, Tim Juhl wrote:
>
> How good are the positions given for the aileron cable fairleads on 6B22 (02/05)?
The position of the forward fairlead seems a little vague and I find the
drawing confusing. Does anyone have a copy of the portion of drawing 6B11 (01/08)
showing the locations of holes for cables, wires, etc., in the side skin?
Any info or pix will help.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tim
>
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> CFII
> Champ L16A flying
> Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
> Wing modifications done - back working on the fuselage
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395958#395958
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Mark Hubelbank
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Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA
mhubel@nemon.com
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Subject: | Re: XL Help needed |
Tim,
Put another way: There is a fairlead riveted to the side skin to guide the
cable through the side skin. This fairlead puts the cable very close to t
he back side of the seat back. To make sure that the cable does not rub ag
ainst the seat back, they put a piece of nylon on the back side of the seat
back to keep that from happening.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Bannister <jaybannist@cs.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: XL Help needed
I guess you could say that there are two pieces to the balance cable fairle
ad and the two pieces are at right angles to one another. One is for the s
ide skin hole that is riveted to the side skin and the other one riveted to
the aft side of the seat back just to protect it from possible rubbing by
the cable. That one is at right angles to and does butt up against the sid
e skin.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Juhl <timjuhl@frontier.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:39 pm
Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: XL Help needed
I'm still confused. The nylon piece(s) riveted to the back of the seat pan
el...
is there one on each side, butting up against the side skin or?
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Wing modifications done - back working on the fuselage
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395993#395993
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Subject: | Re: XL Help needed |
I understand, thanks. The next question is "How accurate is Zenith's placement
of the holes? Do the cables run straight and true or are they being deformed
a bit by the fairleads?
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Wing modifications done - back working on the fuselage
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395999#395999
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Subject: | Re: XL Help needed |
As I recall, both cables are deflected very slightly at the fairleads, whi
ch is the only reason for the fairleads, anyway. I think the placement rea
lly has to do with avoiding interferences within the fuselage, not making t
he cables straight from point to point. I could easily be wrong about that
since some builders have used pushrods instead of cables and those would h
ave to be straight, point to point.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Juhl <timjuhl@frontier.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:52 pm
Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: XL Help needed
I understand, thanks. The next question is "How accurate is Zenith's place
ment
of the holes? Do the cables run straight and true or are they being deform
ed a
bit by the fairleads?
Tim
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Anybody ever do any flight testing to see if wheel pants give the XL / 650 any
more cruise speed?
Tim
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Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Wing modifications done - back working on the fuselage
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396006#396006
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Subject: | Re: XL Wheel pants |
Tim, did you check the archives?
I remember reading about it a while back...
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
On Sunday, March 10, 2013, Tim Juhl wrote:
> >
>
> Anybody ever do any flight testing to see if wheel pants give the XL / 650
> any more cruise speed?
>
> Tim
>
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> ______________
> CFII
> Champ L16A flying
> Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
> Wing modifications done - back working on the fuselage
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396006#396006
>
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