---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/04/13: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:45 AM - Zoodiac 601 HDS flying info (gpjann1@netzero.com) 2. 10:58 AM - Elevator cable clearance (Tim Juhl) 3. 11:10 AM - Re: Elevator cable clearance (Jay Bannister) 4. 02:10 PM - Re: New to aircraft, flying tips needed. 601XL-B (philand) 5. 08:51 PM - Re: Re: New to aircraft, flying tips needed. 601XL-B () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:45 AM PST US From: "gpjann1@netzero.com" Subject: Zenith601-List: Zoodiac 601 HDS flying info Just some info on how my plane flyies which may be helpful. Using the rudder for coordinating turns is different than any other plane I've flown. Since the rudder is a flying rudder it takes very little pressure to turn when my airspeed is 80+ knts. But at 80 knts and below the rudder takes very little pressure to use, and rudder comes in quickly, too quiickly. When using the rudder you have to be aware of your airspeed or you could get yourself into a spin. This causes concern when needing to land, turning in the pattern, slowing down, and decending. You may have to change rudder presure quickly, at the right time. Other then that the plane is closely coupled, light on the ailerons, and has control even at high decent ratesand slowing down. Fly safe.. Greg Jannakos N4399 TG/Corvair ____________________________________________________________ How to Sleep Like a Rock Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/515d9fdd483dd1fdd0d5est03vuc ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:58:21 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Elevator cable clearance From: "Tim Juhl" Just a question - I ran a string back from the stick to check the cable clearance. The lower elevator cable seems to run awfully close to the aileron cable attachment point on the back of the torque tube. For those of you who have your ailerons hooked up, does the cable touch the torque tube when the stick is fully deflected left? I'm just wondering if I need to move the hole in the fairlead a little bit to the right to give more clearance? Tim -------- ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Wing modifications done - back working on the fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397860#397860 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/elev_800.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:10:04 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Elevator cable clearance From: Jay Bannister Tim. I know what you are saying. I had doubts myself when building. However, I f you build it as it is designed, it will work. Because of the third dimen sional movements of the cables, it is almost impossible to visualize or ana lyze; but trust me, it will work. Jay -----Original Message----- From: Tim Juhl Sent: Thu, Apr 4, 2013 1:00 pm Subject: Zenith601-List: Elevator cable clearance Just a question - I ran a string back from the stick to check the cable clearance. The lower elevator cable seems to run awfully close to the ailer on cable attachment point on the back of the torque tube. For those of you wh o have your ailerons hooked up, does the cable touch the torque tube when the stick is fully deflected left? I'm just wondering if I need to move the ho le in the fairlead a little bit to the right to give more clearance? Tim ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:14 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: New to aircraft, flying tips needed. 601XL-B From: "philand" I have an XL ready for 1st flt. and have read several comments about yaw stability. As a long time sailplane pilot, I wonder if it would help to put a yaw string on the canopy. I don't know haw the air currents over the canopy are, but the "yaw string" (about 6" of yarn) taped to the fwd. canopy is an extremely sensitive coordination indicator. Has anyone tried this to correct yaw? [Question] -------- Phil Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397875#397875 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:54 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: New to aircraft, flying tips needed. 601XL-B Tim, some times those guys can be fun, though. Many , many years ago, I belonged to the New Orleans Navy Aero Club. They had some planes at Alvin Callender Field, and some at New Orleans Lakefront. It was hilarious to watch some Navy hot stick with no tail dragger time jump into a Luscombe, and snake-track a couple of miles from the tiedown to the active, (100 yards) generally including at least one 360 degree turn.... Paul R ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Juhl To: zenith601-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 8:47 PM Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: New to aircraft, flying tips needed. 601XL-B > As a CFII myself, I second Patrick's suggestion that time in type (or at least in similar aircraft) is more important than total hours. I learned a long time ago not to be awed by the hour's in a guy's logbook. I once had a high time Navy Top Gun Tomcat pilot almost kill me trying to land a C172. Let us know how it works out. Tim -------- ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Wing modifications done - back working on the fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397817#397817 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith601-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith601-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith601-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith601-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.